Rob Kall: Yeah, so maybe you're from Utah, or maybe not. You know, I want to respect your intention to remain anonymous, except you, you write somewhere, or maybe it's a reviewer on Amazon, has written that you've offered to provide your true name to anybody that writes to you. Is that right?
M.E. Thomas: Right. So that's at the very end of the book, and this, I kind of describe at the very end of the book, which that you probably haven't gotten too. What I'm trying to do now is be in a glass closet. I understand that in order to write a memoir that's compelling that I had to write about specific details of my life, including identifying details. And when you take some of these data points, like that I am a woman, and I am Mormon, and that I'm a law professor. You have narrowed it down to a very fine, you know very narrow subset of the population already. And then you can take any other additional data point, and basically identify me.
So I knew that I was going to be identifiable anyways, but I sort of wanted too, for purposes of not making my life completely this all about, you know being diagnosed as a sociopath. And to shield my family from repercussions, I'm writing about them as well. I have little relatives who I don't want them for the rest of their lives, this is the thing that they're known for.
So I'm trying to stave off as much as possible. I'm trying to not be identified via quick Google searches, right? I'm trying not to be very completely open. And it's actually worked pretty well. It's worked pretty well in that, you know there are people like you thankfully who are very respectful of that desire. And so my family, their lives really haven't been affected that much at all. My life has been affected, and that's something that I kind of knew was going to happen, or knew was a significant risk. And, and that's fine I'm willing to make those sorts of trade offs.
But I'm really glad that my, my family's life for the most part has kept going. Because they, well first of all they don't deserve it, and second of all you know when bad things happen to me, I rely on them for support. And so the last thing I want to do is poison my own well.
Rob Kall: Okay. So, I've got a bunch more questions. Do you, can you describe any jobs where you would not want to see a sociopath or a psychopath in that job?
M.E. Thomas: Hmm. You know I think there is jobs that sociopaths would naturally not gravitate towards. Like I don't think, maybe not kindergarten teacher, that's not really considered a powerful or prestigious, or you know I mean they would think they were shaping young minds and things. I, but as a society are there any jobs that society might think a sociopath are not suitable for?
Rob Kall: No, no, no, what do you, what are, I mean if you had to deal with somebody, would you want a psychologist who's a sociopath? Would you want to have somebody running a non profit who's a sociopath? Would you want somebody who is the head of a company who is a sociopath? Things like that. President?
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