M.E. Thomas: *chuckles* Well so, some of these longer friendships, right, the one that I've been friends with for ten years, I was friends with her before I had even heard the term. So she was aware of the particular characteristics, and this frequently happens, I'll get emails all the time from people being like, "My husband or my wife is a sociopath, and we got married and I knew that they were like this, and it's only been recently that I learned that the word for this is sociopath".
And a lot of people are just fine with it. You know, people have all sorts of different breeds of dogs, what do they say? There is a lid for every pot? Some people are fine with it, everything is a trait, and if you are dating a sociopath you're going to get certain good things, and if you, you're also going to get certain bad things, right? It's just a grab bag of different traits.
So these people, they thought you know, you're this particular way, but you're also, you have a very interesting insight into the world. And it's a very unique worldview. And you can be, one friend tells me that she always calls me up when she wants a solution to the problem. If she wants too just have somebody be like, "Oh I'm so sorry, that sounds like a terrible thing," she would never call me up. Because she knows that I wouldn't give that sort of answer. That's not really what I'm good at, and it's not really what I would you know think to do with a particular person.
Since being diagnosed, it is kind of a difficult thing. How do you tell somebody you're a sociopath? I've dated people since then, people that I met and then, you know how early is too early? It's obviously not the first date, what is it? Ten months in? Is that too late? Are they going to feel like I've lied to them the whole time if it's ten months in? Is it two months in, or is that too early, and it's just going to scare them away? Because I think, for the most part, people think sociopath is like this horrible horrible run away quick as fast as you can thing.
But you know, I do I have successful friend relationships, and I like to think that it's possible for me to have a successful romantic relationship. What am I supposed to do, just not date anybody? Just, or do the first date thing and just hope that there's going to be somebody, it's actually interesting, since the book, I've gotten some dates proposals from people, people emailing me and saying, you know, you're very interesting I have a crush on you. But then I start thinking that's a little creepy maybe.
Rob Kall: Yeah, well you mention in the book, "As a sociopath I feel I have no particular sexual identity either," and you are bisexual right?
M.E. Thomas: Right.
Rob Kall: Yeah, and have you been in romantic relationships that have endured?
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