But what Ayn Rand was against, it seemed , was this, this sort of knee jerk reaction of, of you know this, this is morally wrong, or somehow unfair to the point where we have to correct it by taking things from other people. And to me that just seemed like a rigged game. And a rigged game is one of the worst things that you can think something is as a sociopath. Cause if it's rigged, then, then you're going to cheat too. Not only are you going to cheat, you're going to become the biggest cheater, or you're not going to play at all.
Rob Kall: So what's your opinion of Ayn Rand now?
M.E. Thomas: I haven't really thought about her much, I still know that she probably, if you had to put her on the spectrum, she definitely thinks more objectively about things and less emotionally. You know objectivism being her philosophy. But I don't know if she would be a sociopath. She seemed to be kind of narcissistic, or is this what you're asking? Is she sociopathic? Or..
Rob Kall: Yeah, yeah that was coming. *chuckles*
M.E. Thomas: Yeah. *chuckles* Yes, she, she seems to have an element of narcissism with her personal relationships. I've only read, you know basically the Wikipedia entry on her life. But does not selfish kind of, one thing that's kind of different about her, from a typical sociopath, is that she seemed to find the need to justify her actions, right? So if she took, you know, took somebody, somebody's spouse away from them, it was for the greater good, or it was, you know, in service to humanity, or it was et cetera et cetera. And sociopaths don't have the need to tell themselves these self serving stories. They're just fine doing things, they don't even, I don't think they reflect on their actions enough to even think that there's a need to tell a self serving story. Unless they were suddenly questioned about it.
Rob Kall: Okay. Who were some of the famous sociopaths that, you could cite that you would consider to be sociopaths?
M.E. Thomas: Yeah, that's a really good question. It's actually pretty hard, to tell I think. Sociopaths are notoriously good at staying hidden. One of the things that they're great at is, and I think this is very, indicative of sociopathy, is trying not to disclose personal details. Which sort of seems funny because I just wrote a memoir. But I actually am very conflicted about having to have had, having to disclose all these personal details about my life. And even on the blog.
But in real life, I basically only listen. I might tell a few charming anecdotal stories about something. But I'm not really the type who wants to sit there and small talk and give people, you know, a long list of facts about my life.
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