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Marina Sitrin on Horizontalism-- transcript part 2

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This is the second half of the transcript of my interview with Marina Sitrin, recorded April 25, 2012. 

Marina Sitrin is the author of Horizontalism: Voices of Popular Power in Argentina and it seemed like all the time when I was at the different Occupy Wall Street locales, the idea of horizontalism came at me, and almost always it was Marina Sitrin as the editor of this book whose name came associated with it. So, welcome to the show, Marina!  Now, let me give a little bit more of a bio that I've collected on you. Marina Sitrin is a writer, lawyer, teacher, organizer and dreamer. She holds a Ph.D. in global sociology, and a J.D., that's a legal degree, in international Women's human rights. Her work focuses on social movements and justice, specifically looking at new forms of social organization, such as autogestion, horizontalidad, pre-figurative politics and new effective social relationships.

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Part one of the interview is here.

Rob:  Now, let's talk about those banging pots and pans. What's the word that is used for that again?

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Marina:   Cacerola, a Cacerola is like a big pot. Yeah, so the Cacerolazo is the banging of pots and pans.

Rob:  C-a-c-e-r-o-l-a, cacerola, right?

Marina:   Uh-huh.

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Rob:  And this is something that hundreds of thousands of people went out into the streets and did, right?

Marina:   Right, and regular people. So many people described this to me. People went out in flip flops. People went out in pajama tops. It was everybody. This was not some kind of activist scene at all. This was just everybody, your neighbor. Well, when millions of people go out in the street, it's a whole other thing.

Rob:  Now. I have to say that OpEdnews, the site I publish, probably has published over a thousand articles on Occupy at this point, and I had one reader who would write to me every couple days and say, "Don't forget to talk about banging the pots and pans."

Marina:   Really? Were they from Argentina?  That's interesting.

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Rob Kall is an award winning journalist, inventor, software architect, connector and visionary. His work and his writing have been featured in the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, CNN, ABC, the HuffingtonPost, Success, Discover and other media. He's given talks and workshops to Fortune 500 execs and national medical and psychological organizations, and pioneered first-of-their-kind conferences in Positive Psychology, Brain Science and Story. He hosts some of the world's smartest, most interesting and powerful people on his Bottom Up Radio Show, and founded and publishes one of the top Google- ranked progressive news and opinion sites, OpEdNews.com

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Rob Kall has spent his adult life as an awakener and empowerer-- first in the field of biofeedback, inventing products, developing software and a music recording label, MuPsych, within the company he founded in 1978-- Futurehealth, and founding, organizing and running 3 conferences: Winter Brain, on Neurofeedback and consciousness, Optimal Functioning and Positive Psychology (a pioneer in the field of Positive Psychology, first presenting workshops on it in 1985) and Storycon Summit Meeting on the Art Science and Application of Story-- each the first of their kind.  Then, when he found the process of raising people's consciousness and empowering them to take more control of their lives  one person at a time was too slow, he founded Opednews.com-- which has been the top search result on Google for the terms liberal news and progressive opinion for several years. Rob began his Bottom-up Radio show, broadcast on WNJC 1360 AM to Metro Philly, also available on iTunes, covering the transition of our culture, business and world from predominantly Top-down (hierarchical, centralized, authoritarian, patriarchal, big)  to bottom-up (egalitarian, local, interdependent, grassroots, archetypal feminine and small.) Recent long-term projects include a book, Bottom-up-- The Connection Revolution, debillionairizing the planet and the Psychopathy Defense and Optimization Project. 

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