T.D.: That's because a lot of the intel was there and after the fact they ended up using it, that's remarkable history and remember there were those it clearly threatened, our interest and others. The full history of that I know eventually will come out down the road but yes. There were those that were more immediate threats that were taken care of in the weeks and months and couple of years after 9/11.
R.K.: So I want to get back to Benghazi though because I just want to be really clear about this. Now are you saying that you know that the CIA used the consulate there as a cover to run guns to Syria or are you, what is your knowledge about that?
T.D.: I don't have prima facie evidence, I am no longer in the system, okay? I am just talking about one of the ironies, and I won't go into detail, but because of what happened to me I am more than a passing footnote in history so I have any number of contacts with various people across all spectrums here and I have communication with certain reporters both on and off the record.
I am just telling you that reporters who know the truth here and are being kept silent, the papers of record or the outlets of record, I am not going to mention who, but the outlets of record are not allowing the truth to come out to inform the public. This is similar to Iran- Contra and we know what happened then. The truth is out there. The truth has been shared. There are reporters who know about it. They know that that was part of the cover up.
R.K.: So let me get this straight. This-
T.D.: Benghazi really is a problem because it wasn't just, which is well known that diplomatic missions are used as cover, it's a fact that you know you had an Al Qaeda associated terrorist group who deliberately planned to attack the consulate. That's precisely what they did.
R.K.: Keep going.
T.D.: It was known early on who did it. So you have that part of it, but then you have the other part of it. And the problem was they were compromised. And-
R.K.: If they knew why did they let them go and kill the people?
T.D.: Oh well that's interesting. Why would they? Well now jeesh now you're getting into the pathology of what happens when you're trying to protect an operation and you're willing to sacrifice to protect the operation even if you didn't mean it, if it ends up you don't want to blow the cover.
R.K.: Wow. So again this could be failure to share information?
T.D.: People just, it's part of the challenge I have, okay? Having had been exposed to dirty knowledge about where does the real stuff happen? It's all behind the scenes. It's not the Kabuki dance of public pronouncements, that's all covered. That's all to give a certain sheen to the history that unfolds behinds the scenes. Sometimes you don't know about that real history until years or decades later.
The problem in this world today with the technology and advances in communications, these things can metastasize very very quickly and tragedy of Benghazi is we have a number of people including an ambassador who was senselessly murdered and it didn't have to happen. That did not have to happen. The Senate Report is correct. It was preventable.
R.K.: What about what Darrell Issa has been investigating? Why is this coming out in those congressional hearings?
T.D.: Why isn't it? Sorry.
R.K.: Yeah.
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