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NSA Whistleblower Thomas Drake Intvw Transcript Part II: Obama, Secrecy, Corporate Espionage, 911, Star Trek and more

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T.D.: Who is going to know the difference, right?

R.K.: So what you're saying is Benghazi was used by the CIA as a front like it has done in many other overseas entities and consulates as a cover to run guns to Syria?

T.D.: Yeah well, yeah.  But there's people on the story that won't talk about it, okay?  Even Benghazi, I have known for months, and talking to people on background deliberately withheld  from mainstream media what has now come out, and of course you have got the senate report that it could have been prevented.  Jeesh we could say that about 9/11, why don't they do a 9/11 report?  

Yeah they did a 9/11 report, it was censored and suppressed by NSA because I know what I gave them was prima facie smoking gun evidence of what NSA knew about 9/11 and had not shared and when it came to, when you do go through the bureaucratic process when they do an investigation from congress there are findings and recommendations.  What they do is they go back out to the agents or departments  which they investigated and they're allowed to respond and for reasons of national security they weren't going to leave in even the super secret report, the fact that they had intelligence, that they knew about.  Never mind intelligence they didn't know about, this was the intelligence they knew about and didn't share.  Even -

R.K.: Can you talk about what the intelligence was?

T.D.: Look. Sorry?

R.K.: Can you talk about what that intelligence was that they knew about?

T.D.: Yeah well I talked about it in the memo.  The memo that we addressed through the [inaudible 10:38] , the memo that we released that was actually, we had one of the privacy groups that met with White House counsel was able to get a copy of that memo and our twenty one recommendations, my fellow NSA Whistleblowers, we were able to get those twenty one recommendations into at least the hands of the White House counsel.  In the memo I am directly quoted about that.  And -

R.K.: Tell the listeners though, what was it?  What was the evidence?

T.D.: Right, because you asked me about the other part of 9/11, the truther part that I didn't actually answer yet.

R.K.: Yeah I'm waiting.

T.D.: In quick summary, I was tasked at NSA when the first 9/11 Congressional Investigation was launched.  Announced and launched by Saxby Chambliss.  He was the head, he was the chair of one of the House Intel sub-committees on homeland security.  It was a recently formed sub-committee.  He announced a congressional investigation of 9/11 and although I became a material witness or whistleblower for that congressional investigation, I was tasked to NSA to lead the effort to provide a formal statement for the record behind closed doors to the committee.  

During the course of, and we were in a really short short deadline, it was about two and a half three weeks.  And during the course of that effort, I ran across smoking gun information that NSA, on several fronts by the way, we just talked about the safe house switchboard, that was specific actionable intelligence that was known by NSA that had not been shared with National Command Authorities and others that could have done something with it.  

There was actually also another report that had been done many many months earlier that had essentially unfolded the entire Al Qaeda network and all associated movements that existed up until that time and I remember being given a copy of that, this is after 9/11 and then when I went to Maureen Baginski with it, it was a remarkable reaction because she absolutely stiffened in terms of her body language and then just glared at me and simply said, I wish you had never brought this to my attention.  The problem was she no longer had plausible deniability and that report had never been shared with the rest of the community.  

We're talking about critical knowledge and intelligence that could have easily have rolled up essentially the entire network as it existed in early 2001.  

R.K.: And actually you talked at dinner about how after 9/11 they did roll it up and they basically killed most of the members of Al Qaeda.

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