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NSA Whistleblower Thomas Drake Intvw Transcript Part II: Obama, Secrecy, Corporate Espionage, 911, Star Trek and more

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This is the Rob Kall Bottom Up Radio Show WNJC1360 AM out of Washington Township reaching Metro Philly and South Jersey.  Sponsored by opednews.com and we are going to wait and see if he comes back.  

At dinner we had an interesting conversation about another thing.  He pointed out that there really is a president's book of secret and the evidence there would be very interesting and it could really tell us some interesting stories.  Are you back?

T.D.: Yeah I'm back.

R.K.: Alright.  Your phone go dead?

T.D.: Yeah, (laughter) it sure did.  

R.K.: Been there.  So I was asking you about false flag operations.  Now you're saying that 9/11 was not a false flag operation but at dinner the other night you said that our intelligence operations engage in false flag operations.  

T.D.: Yes they do.  Yes.  That's like the Gulf of Tonkin was the equivalent of a false flag although the flag wasn't of our making, we simply used the event as an excuse for engaging in something far larger.  So that was, you say manufactured, that was intelligence that wasn't the intelligence they said was there, the attack that didn't actually happen.  This actually happened.  For me it's what we then did to ourselves as a result of 9/11 but is it fair to say that Cheney was, was this the crisis?  Of course it was.  There's no doubt about that.  

R.K.: What about other false flag operations?

T.D.: Such as?  I mean-

R.K.: You're saying that our intelligence organizations have engaged in false flag operations.  Could you tell me more about that?

T.D.: Yeah well historically, I remember interviewing, one of the things that I got to do as part of my community service, I had two hundred forty hours of community service, I interviewed upwards of forty or so, this side of four dozen veterans of WWII, the present day and those that I interviewed that were intelligence spoke about that, spoke about you create false flag because it's all diversionary.  It's diversionary because you either, it's used to fake out or you use it as cover for something else.  

R.K.: Now you mentioned that they are used to create conditions to get funding.  

T.D.: But false flag, I could argue Iraq was false flag.  They used trumped up intelligence as an excuse to invade when it was not necessary.  

R.K.: Okay.  Now you said you also knew, what about the USS Liberty?  You talked about that on Tuesday night, too.

T.D.: USS Liberty, I have spoken to people that have survived that and it was an egregious act by Israel but I understand, it was 1967, the problem was that they wanted to blow it out of the water.  We lost a number of our own in that attack and it was repeated attacks.  The fact remains and it's in the intelligence that President Johnson did not order any rescue operation or to prevent it from happening.  

R.K.: He could have defended it.

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