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NSA Whistleblower Thomas Drake Intvw Transcript Part II: Obama, Secrecy, Corporate Espionage, 911, Star Trek and more

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But I know in some cases we're slow to awake and I hear this, having come back from a University talk, any number of other, I'll be speaking at the Liberty forum, the Free State Project up in Nashville and New Hampshire in about a month, and I am putting together the speech as we speak, I'm going straight to the heart of the matter about what's at stake in our future and what does it mean to live free.  

I mean it's interesting because that's the live free or die state, right?  Don't tread on me.  I grew up in Vermont, next door neighbor sandwiched in between New Hampshire and New York so it is We The People but I actually have a lot more faith, I don't look at my fellow citizens as cynically as the government does, remember, here's the thing about governance, it's supposed to be by consent, you govern by consent.  

You don't govern by secrecy and it's, you know it's by consent.  That's an opt-in, not an opt-out.  There is the paradox, most people give the government wide berth to do it's stuff because most people don't want to run rule over others and governance frankly, having seen it from the inside out is like sausage being made.  When you see sausage made it's not a pleasant thing to see so even Bismark said that back in the late 19th century about the sausage making of politics.  Not pleasant.  

But I actually have greater faith in the American public and even citizens in the world at large.  Recognizing and being realistic about secret power, Lord Acton's warning about what happens with power.  Power does tend to corrupt but it's clear that absolute power corrupts absolutely.  Combine that with extraordinary access to information, combine that with secrecy and you have a witch's brew, a Pandora's box.  

R.K.: And on that I think we need to wrap.  I think that's a good place to wrap and I want to thank you again and keep up the great work and keep us up to date on what's going on with you.

T.D.: I will and I appreciate the opportunity to speak to your listening audience and I look forward to speaking with you again.  

R.K.: Thank you so much.  

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