DS: Would you like me to say a few words on that?
Rob: Yes, please.
DS: I am, I'll tell you this. That to me is the best example of the use of the phrase, they drank the Kool Aid. Which stems from of the course the horrors of Jim Jones's cult. But the tea party is a group of people who typically, from what I gather, from what I'm able to gather what I read, are often working class people. And they have been convinced that government is the enemy. All that government does is take from them to give to people of color, is basically what they're saying although they don't say it.
I think it's absolutely based on racism. Although, not only on racism. It's basically the idea that government is evil, it's taking our money, it's using it to give to people who don't deserve it. And we don't want it. Well no, from what I understand again, the people who have been selling this have been, you know the mouth pieces for think tanks that are funded by some of the world's biggest billionaires. Rupert Murdoch and Rich Mellon Scaife, and the Koch Brothers and etc. These guys fund these think tanks that very very ingeniously catch the attention of the lower middle class, the working class. People who, in fact, are going to and if they don't already, heavily rely on the security net provided by the government such as Medicare, such as highways, such as you know, you name it. And somehow these billionaires are going to convince all of these relatively poor people that they should vote for republicans who are going to dismantle the safety net and stop having government do anything. To me it couldn't be more, a better example of drinking the Kool Aid. Of course it's been written about by people who know a lot more about it than I do. The guy Frank who wrote the, Whatever Happened to Kansas.
Rob: Pity the Poor Billionaire, his newer book.
DS: Right and Naomi Klein's work on disaster capitalism. I mean people are, Paul Krugman's work, these people know what they're talking about from a tremendously well researched place. And I'm using secondary sources but, let me tell you, as a former cult member, it just. Well when I actually first got out of this cult, knew I had been in a cult, back in the Reagan, still in the end of the Reagan era, I think it was, I saw it. I saw it then, I could see it in silent majority, the religious right, I knew what was happening right then and there. That the people who wanted to think of themselves as the most righteous, the most moral, were being, you know manipulated by the industrialists and the capitalists and the billionaires and this was going to come together as some anti-immoralism campaign which was basically going to be a root to make it acceptable to people to have no compassion for the poor. And to entrench racism in the country. I saw it. And I still see. That's how I see it. Just my opinion.
Rob: Okay.
DS: And how are we doing on time, are we going to?
Rob: I think we're going to wrap, the last thing I wanted to talk to you about was narcissism in relationships. Because I'm sure there are people listening who are in relationships with this kind traumatizing narcissists. What do you have to say to people who are in those relationships? And we've already learned that a lot of times, those people are in them because their parents were them.
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