DS: Okay I will not. But you know there's a certain kind of forget you that's possible with a lot of money, right? Everybody wishes they could tell somebody, forget you, if they had enough money to do it right? Look, I'm not against money, I'd like to have more than I have but I agree that there is an obscene quality to the way wealth is now accumulated and how it's made and how it's used, or misused.
Rob: But stay within the topic that was traumatic narcissism. Where does narcissism fit in with great wealth?
DS: It fits in this way. It bolsters the sense of superiority. It's bolsters that desperately needed feeling that you have power and control and superiority and you know and you can prove it because you can build the highest house on the highest hill. You can wear the most, you know, extraordinary clothes, you can buy whatever you want. It's the ultimate narcissistic fantasy. I'm perfect, I'm beautiful, I have everything and nobody can touch me. I don't need anything from anybody because I've got all of this money. Meanwhile, if you've ever known very wealthy people, they're hardly, they're very rarely people I've met who are as needy as some very wealthy people are. Who need 20 people at all times be at the beck and call in order to walk across the street. Or get a newspaper or something, so it's a tremendously, for many, it's a tremendous bolster of narcissism and for people who are narcissistically tending in that direction, money just increases the narcissism. I don't say that everybody who has money, or lots of it, is necessarily narcissistic. You know, I think there are people who, I think we're all narcissistic in some ways. Small and large. And sometimes people with lots of money are extraordinarily narcissistic. And money helps them maintain it. I think that's the best I, that's what I can say about that.
Rob: Okay.
DS: I do want to say, Rob, though that I'm with you, that there's a big dangerous problem with the way wealth is currently distributed on the planet. So, I'm with you there.
Rob: Now in terms of talking about cults, you bring up the tea party.
DS: Yeah.
Rob: you want to talk about that?
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