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French television station Canal+ recently sat down with Dr. Patrick Moore for an upcoming documentary. Dr Moore, who claims to be an ecological expert and is currently the frontman for Ecosense Environmental, stated to the interviewer that Monsanto's weed killer Roundup was not responsible for skyrocketing cancer rates in Argentina.

Roundup/Glyphosate is not Dangerous. Drink a Quart and it Won't Hurt you. I am not joking; Dr. Patrick Moore surely knows what he is talking about. Watch and listen to Dr. Patrick Moore.

Dr. Patrick Moore:

"I do not believe glyphosate in Argentina is causing increases in cancer."

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"You Can drink a whole quart of it and it won't hurt you."

"People try to commit suicide with it and fail fairly regularly."

"Its not dangerous to humans."

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Interviewer: "You want to drink some? We have some here."

Dr. Patrick Moore: "I would be happy to actually ... not really ... I know it wouldn't hurt me ... I'm not stupid."

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Bravo, David Watts! Great find.

If Dr. Patrick Moore had said, 'Hell No! That stuff tastes terrible,' OR 'Only with a water chaser,' OR 'No, thanks. I had some for lunch,' ... he just might have provided a tiny bit of support to his argument.

But, 'I'm not an idiot.' ?

Guess he proved 2 points: Lies, lies, nothing but lies. And yep, uh huh, he's an idiot.

Too bad there wasn't time to ask him how many successful suicides had happened with glysophate. But the yellow chicken ran too fast! Not fast enough to keep hold of his dignity, though.

Hmmm. A chicken that speaks fluent Weasel. That's genu-eine elite talent. Musta gone to EEYale.

This clip reminds me of, when on camera, Obama took a 'sip' of lead-laden Flint water. The tiniest sip of water in recorded history. Guess that would explain his subsequent brain damage.

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Oops, I misspelled glyphosate.

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Janet Supriano, I could give you a good word on every half sentence you wrote. But, I am not an idiot. That would take me too long. But, you did spell glicofate incorrekly. I know I don't spell everything correctly so I will hold that against you.

I saw that clip of Dr. Patrick Moore in a video of potholer54. It is a classic. "Dr." Patrick Moore is a paid misinformant not just of Monsanto, but also of the carbon fuel industry. His main argument against global warming is, "it's the sun stupid." Stupid says as stupid is. Or something like that.

I was just sitting looking at lots of nothing when I remembered him saying you could drink a quart of Roundup and, it would not hurt you. When asked if he wanted to drink some, he said yes. When asked again, he said no, I am not stupid. That got me to smile so I posted it. Thought I would lighten up the afternoon ... for me anyway. :)

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:) :

"If Dr. Patrick Moore had said, 'Hell No! That stuff tastes terrible,' OR 'Only with a water chaser,' OR 'No, thanks. I had some for lunch,' ... he just might have provided a tiny bit of support to his argument."

"Too bad there wasn't time to ask him how many successful suicides had happened with glysophate."


"Hmmm. A chicken that speaks fluent Weasel."


I once had a small black dog I named, "Weasel." But my brother said you can't name your dog "Weasel." So I changed her name to "Weezelle."

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Glyphosateboard him? Oops. I misspelled a word too

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"He joined Greenpeace fairly early on and played a prominent role, but, according to Greenpeace, he did not co-found it. There is, however, a dispute over the precise founders of the organization. In fact, there was a time when Greenpeace listed him as a co-founder, but the organization has since removed his name from this list and sought to distance itself from him."

I saw this clip on the glyphosate elixir Moore was offered when it first came out and a comment mentioned this incredible fact and had linked to old footage of Moore and his Greenpeace colleagues in battle with a whaling ship.

Unable to find the clip - perhaps someone will have more luck....but definately Moore was in the boat.

Oh, how the mighty have fallen....

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From a comment of mine a month and half ago.

Now, for the real story from greenpeace.org:

Patrick Moore Does Not Represent Greenpeace. Patrick Moore has been a paid spokesman for a variety of polluting industries for more than 30 years, including the timber, mining, chemical and the aquaculture industries. Most of these industries hired Mr. Moore only after becoming the focus of a Greenpeace campaign to improve their environmental performance. Mr. Moore has now worked for polluters for far longer than he ever worked for Greenpeace. Greenpeace opposes the use of nuclear energy because it is a dangerous and expensive distraction from real solutions to climate change.

Patrick Moore Did Not Found Greenpeace. Patrick Moore frequently portrays himself as a founder or co-founder of Greenpeace, and many news outlets have repeated this characterization. Although Mr. Moore played a significant role in Greenpeace Canada for several years, he did not found Greenpeace.

Patrick Moore often misrepresents himself in the media as an environmental "expert" or even an "environmentalist," while offering anti-environmental opinions on a wide range of issues and taking a distinctly anti-environmental stance. He also exploits long-gone ties with Greenpeace to sell himself as a speaker and pro-corporate spokesperson, usually taking positions that Greenpeace opposes.

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He obviously thinks everyone else is stupid.

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Like many things, at this point you don't know and I don't know - read the letters to this article.


https://www.desmogblog.com/2014/07/12/greenpeace-co-founder-patrick-moore-not-co-founder-all


Many who start out with the good fight end up on the wrong side. Case in point, Jose Manuel Barroso - from Wikipedia:


Jose' Manuel Durão Barroso is a Portuguese politician and economist, currently serving as non-executive Chairman of Goldman Sachs International. He previously served as the 11th President of the European Commission and the 115th Prime Minister of Portugal.

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In his university days, he was one of the leaders of the underground Maoist MRPP (Re-Organized Movement of the Proletariat Party, later Portuguese Workers' Communist Party (PCTP/MRPP), Communist Party of the Portuguese Workers/Revolutionary Movement of the Portuguese Proletariat). In an interview with the newspaper Expresso, he said that he had joined MRPP to fight the only other student body movement, also underground, which was controlled by the Portuguese Communist Party.

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Barroso was on the recent Bilderberg guest list.

Whatever??!!


I don't trust Greenpeace ever since I called the Paris office when persistant contrails started in France one year after Sarkozy was elected. Couldn't get past the receptionist - this air pollution source was flat out denied by them.

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Lots of problems with this take on Moore.

First of all, he isn't/wasn't ever a "lobbyist" for Monsanto.

Secondly, the circumstances of the interview need to be put in context. Moore certainly didn't mean to say that one could drink pure glyphosate without any harm, and also certainly did a poor job of making this clear during this particular exchange.

However the more important, overriding truth surrounding this interview and glyphosate itself, that Moore was quite properly operating under, is that no, it doesn't cause cancer:

"I know, people are going to get mad at these results just because they don't like them. They want to believe Monsanto is evil (maybe they are, but not because of glyphosate). They want to believe that glyphosate causes cancer, because all chemicals are bad. They want to believe that GMOs are bad because glyphosate.

But once again, these science deniers want to pick and choose the science that meets their preconceived notions. They have a conclusion, glyphosate is bad, and they cherry pick data that supports their conclusion, without ascertaining whether the quality of research performed is good or bad.

The research presented herein, from G Andreotti and many others, is a large, high quality study published in a respected journal, firmly rejects the hypothesis that glyphosate causes cancer. And it is in line with numerous other high quality reviews and research that shows the same."

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Huh??

You say Patrick Moore certainly didn't mean to say that one could drink pure glyphosate without any harm. Unless I am missing something, how does that jive with him saying, that he knows that drinking glyphosate wouldn't hurt him.

You say, they cherry pick data that supports their conclusion.


Becky, I have told you more than once before, you are pretty darn good at cherry picking yourself.

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Somehow I don't think you read what I referenced, David. Please do if you haven't. It's simply not believable that Moore was referring to drinking anything close to pure glyphosate. He was thinking the standard concentration of 1-2%, which indeed probably wouldn't cause much more than an upset stomach for a while. And of course nobody would agree to drink anything provided by a stranger in the course of a hostile encounter. That's what he meant when he said "I'm not stupid."

Cherry picking, in the case of glyphosate detractors, means picking the weakest studies, anecdotal stories, and the kinds of distorted logic we're asked to adopt by superficially viewing this ambush interview of Moore.

Cherry picking, by those interested in the actual truth about glyphosate, means picking the highest quality studies with the largest sample sizes, not picking from any anecdotal information at all, and taking the time to consider the true context of Moore's understandable, albeit clumsy, response to an interviewer operating under false and unethical pretenses.

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Becky, with all you have said it is not knowing where to start, it is also not knowing where to end.

you: "Moore certainly didn't mean to say that one could drink pure glyphosate without any harm"" Becky, you are saying he certainly did not mean what he said. For you to know that, he must be in contact with you to tell you what he said he did not mean. If he did not tell you that, then you read his mind retrospectively. If so, I would like to learn how to do that. Please let me know how. I can only go by what I hear and read.

you: "these science deniers want to pick and choose the science that meets their preconceived notions." I could not have said that any better Becky. Thank you. That is what you and the other science deniers do.

you: "It's simply not believable that Moore was referring to drinking anything close to pure glyphosate." To me, it is simply not believable that he meant anything other than what he said. If you have proof which I will assume you think you do, that he said what he did not mean, then Becky please, let me know what proof you have. I am simply at the mercy of going by what "Dr." Patrick Murphy said. I have not checked, is Patrick Murphy really a doctor?

you: " this ambush interview of Moore." Becky, Moore said, "I do not believe glyphosate in Argentina is causing increases in cancer. You can drink a whole quart of it and it won't hurt you." "Ambush interview"??? Well, maybe it was. If so, Patrick Moore ambushed himself. I will concede that Patrick Moore ambushed himself very effectively. Can we agree on that?

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you: "Moore certainly didn't mean to say that one could drink pure glyphosate without any harm"" Becky, you are saying he certainly did not mean what he said.

But he didn't say pure. Nobody said pure. So you don't know any better what Moore was really thinking than I do. So apparently he was "in contact" with you?, so you know he meant pure?

It's more logical to assume he meant the standard 1-2% solution that is commonly applied to plants. He addressed this thus, from my previous link you apparently didn't bother to read:

"I had stated in a previous interview that glyphosate was safe to use in agriculture and mentioned that it has such low toxicity that drinking a large quantity of it at the concentrations used in farming would not cause permanent damage to humans."

So why would he suddenly change to full concentration for this interview? It doesn't make any sense that he would. It's sensible and logical to assume he meant farming concentration.

And I think he's right. Glyphosate is commonly referred to as being relatively non-toxic to humans. It's very toxic to plants, but not humans.

You've bought into 'syllogism fallacies':

Conclusion

Our critical analysis of the commentaries published by Samsel and Seneff reveals that their conclusions are not substantiated by experimental evidence but are based on a type of failed logic known as syllogism fallacies. As Nobel Prize-winning theoretical physicist Richard Feynman famously said, "It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong." In this regard, the mechanisms and vast range of conditions proposed to result from glyphosate toxicity presented by Samsel and Seneff in their commentaries are at best unsubstantiated theories or speculations that are not supported by experimental observation and thus are likely to be wrong.

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