Rob: You're doing this with close to 350 different organizations you've been working with. Or that number are using holacracy in some way, right?
BR: Yep.
Rob: And your biggest one is.. what's the name of the biggest one that you've worked with?
BR: Zappos is the biggest company that has adopted end to end across the whole organization at this point.
Rob: Zappos is a billion dollar company. You've written it had 1,500 employees at the time you started with it. They actually offered to give people who were not interested in working within the holacracy model a three month pay to leave.
BR: Yep
Rob: A couple questions that come out of that, one is, the report was about 14% of the people left, I imagine some of them left for the three month advance, some of them left because they didn't want to work there. What kind of people left? What was the profile of the person who stayed versus the person who left?
BR: From what I've heard there was a good chunk of people that left just happily because they offered them months and months of pay, it was minimum three months and a lot more for longer term workers. So some people left just to start a business, or take some family leave or whatever else.
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