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Interview Transcript: Ellen Brown; Public Banking-- the Bottom Up Solution to a Lot of Economic Ills

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Ellen Brown:   And it's not just us individually, but our public monies, our State and local government monies, could also be confiscated.  What happened in Cyprus was that their two big banks are bankrupt.  Although, that's actually highly fishy, because a couple of weeks earlier, they were actually given a pass, they passed the stress test.  So one wonders (if you want to get real conspiratorial, but anyway) whether it wasn't even just a test case of these new bail-in policies that have been popping up all over the world.  They emanate from BIS (Bank of International Settlements), the "Financial Stability Board" that we all signed on to be regulated by with the G20.  We signed onto that in 2009 after the credit collapse. 

 

So the Financial Stability Board has said that everybody has to have these bail-in policies ready.  The bail-in policies basically say, "We acknowledge that governments are not going to bail out the big banks anymore."  You can see that in Iceland.  I'm guessing that Iceland actually triggered all of that.  So Iceland was the first to say, "Forget it.  We're not paying," and now the Dodd-Frank Act allows the big banks to play with derivatives, but it says "we're not going top bail you out.  The taxpayers are not going to bail you out if you have a big derivatives bust." 

 

So we, the United States, have also said we're not going to bail out the big banks anymore, and in the EU, theoretically under this thing called "The European Stability Mechanism," the EU Euro-zone countries are supposed to bail out their banks.  But they have now said they're not going to do it either.  And so that's why I think - well, there was a Dutch finance minister that said that Cyprus is going to be the model in the future for future bank collapses, that they're going to do bail-in rather than using the European Stability Mechanism to require the countries to bail out the banks.

 

Rob Kall:   So what that means is that instead of the banks protecting depositors (average people and small businesses), what they're going to do is they're going to basically take the money from those people, and they're going to give it to the banks that have invested in these highly speculative, synthetic derivatives.  Is that right?

 

Ellen Brown:   Right.  Instead of saying, "The problem is the big banks and we've got to get rid of them," the goal here is always to keep those big banks afloat.  The question is: the governments aren't going to bail them out anymore, so the presumption is, "They have to survive, and so how do we allow them to survive?"  Well, now they will go after their creditors' money.  But the creditors are the people that they owe money to, so it basically means they're just going to keep the creditors' money and not give it back.  Well, the creditors, the biggest class of creditors are the depositors.  The depositors are supposedly protected by insurance; so we have FDIC insurance, and in Europe they have similar sorts of insurance.  The EU protects it's depositors with up to a hundred thousand Euros.  Our insurance goes up to $250 thousand. 

 

What they did originally in Cyprus when these two banks -- Cyprus itself (the country) needed a further loan (they're in economic trouble), so they needed a loan from the ECBEU IMF: the Troika.  And the Troika said they would give it only on condition that these banks were bailed out by bailing them in: in other words, by a tax on the depositors' money.  Originally it was a tax on all the depositors, including the insured depositors.  Well that was just the ordinary little people, so the people took to the streets and they said "Absolutely not"; and the politicians refused to approve it, they voted it down, which  was good of the Cyprus politicians, the Cyprus government.  So it wasn't the fault of the Cyprus government; it was the fault of the Troika, these unelected Technocrats that are running the whole show there.

 

Rob Kall:   What do you mean running the show there?  Running what show, where?

 

Ellen Brown:   The ECB is the European Central Bank, and the EC (the Europeans Commission) is the governing body of the EU.  The IMF, of course is - it's been called the collection agency for the banks, but it's the big bank that -- I think it's actually the World bank that originally makes these loans, but the IMF goes in and collects, (laughs) takes the money and works out the funding arrangements.  Anyway, so that's the Troika.

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