Griffin: Well the main document for the cover up the first main document was the 9/11 Commission Report. So my first book was The New Pearl Harbor in which I simply laid out and I was a johnny-come-lately to the movement, it was a year and a half before I got involved. And at that stage a lot of work had already been done. And I simply summarized all the evidence that previous researchers had come up with. Then a few months later the 9/11 Commission Report came out and I went over to the store and bought it immediately and got down to read it to see how did they deal with all the things that we had talked about. And I knew by the way that they had my book. From various ways, means we knew they had multiple copies of my book. So it wasn’t that they didn’t know, it was how were they going to deal with this. And I saw they dealt with it by simply ignoring 99 percent of it and the other one percent approximately, distorted it. And so it’s cover up all the way.
Kall: How about since then?
Griffin: Well, then the next major report see that was 2004 and then 2005 NIST put out its report on the twin towers and that’s the part that the 9/11 Commission didn’t really deal with. And you can know not only did they not put it in their report, they didn't discuss it in any of their meetings, because Lee Hamilton, who was the co-chair, knew absolutely nothing about what the official theory of the collapse of the buildings was. He even said on an interview with CBC, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, that he said well the towers came down because the fire melted the steel. Well that’s just absurd of course. A fire can’t get anywhere close to the temperature needed to melt steel, I mean fire in an open situation like that, an ordinary hydrocarbon fire, whether it’s jet fuel, fuel…
Kall: Wait, wait, we’re taking, what I really want to do, because it’s so easy to get into the details of this. Because we’ve got listeners all over the world, and in South Jersey and in Philadelphia, who may not know much about this, can you kind of give a brief overview of some of the main pieces of, some of the main conclusions that the 9/11 Truth Movement have come to, regarding the deceptions and the cover up, and what are the theories that are contemporary to the 9/11 Truth Movement. How do they diverge from what was reported and the story that the government has sold?
Griffin: Okay, I'll just I'll give you a brief outline and then you can come back and ask for detail on these. One big point of course is the question why weren’t the planes intercepted? Well here we’ve had different stories. So, originally they said that the military was notified by the FAA. we have these standard operating procedures. If a plane has what they call an in-flight emergency which is signaled by they lose radio contact, the transponder goes off, and the most decisive thing if the plane radically changes course and doesn’t get right back on. Then the FAA notifies the military, the military scramble a plane, send it up very early, couple jets up very quickly. And normally these interceptions occur within ten minutes. And that day no interceptions occurred. And even though ten, twenty, thirty minutes, forty minutes went by.
So they said well the FAA was slow notifying us, and that’s where the early 9/11 Truth Movement did the math and said look, even if the FAA was this late you still could have got there in time. These F-15’s and F-16’s go very fast and the scrambling routine is very well rehearsed. And so when the 9/11 Commission came out they just changed the story and said yeah, that’s right, if the military had told the truth the interceptions could have been made, but the military lied, and actually the FAA didn’t notify the military, except the very first flight, didn’t give them time, and then didn't notify them about the other three flights at all. So that’s one thing, and of course that contradicts what the military said, contradicts what hundreds of stories in the press have said.
A second big area is the question why did the buildings come down, and there you have to distinguish between the towers and building seven. The towers were hit by these airplanes and the claim is that the combination of the impact of the plane, plus the fire that ensued, plus gravitation, brought the buildings down.
Kall: Very neatly, in pancake form, right?
Griffin: Yeah, that was the original term, pancake, NIST didn’t use that in its later report, but the idea was yes, it did come, there was an enormous explosion at the top of each tower, which, here’s something that that theory can’t handle, sent huge steel beams, sections of steel beams that weighed an enormous amount, sent them out horizontally 500, 600 feet, and plastered the neighboring building. You can see this on Loose Change Final Cut or 9/11 Mysteries. So, that was the theory…
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