Rob Kall: Hm. I have to think about that one. I've written about how I believe that we're
transitioning from an information era to a connection era, and I guess the
ultimate connection is wholeness.
Andrew Schmookler: Well it depends ion the nature of the
connection. The hierarchical society we
were discussing earlier also is full of connection. They rally as a tribe. They are connected with one another before
they go off into battle. The salute the
same banner. They wear the same
uniform. So, it all depends on the
nature of the connection, and how far it goes, and what the connection
experiences being for; is it beating the enemy?
That's the war one.
Rob Kall: You know it's funny; last week I did an
interview with a neuropolitics scientist, and he talked about how one of the
parts of the brain that plays a role is the one that defines us versus them,
and that other researchers have found that when that part of the brain becomes
quiet, that's when people feel connected to God. I don't know what to make of it, but -
Andrew Schmookler: That's nice.
There you have about the pattern of brokenness! "Us" versus "them" as orientation for how you
relate to the world, with is what you see with the Republicans all the time
now. They never reach out; it's always
us versus them. It is a way of
fracturing the world! The pattern of
brokenness is visible right there: Us
versus them versus letting go of that, the area of the brain, and then feeling
more in touch with the ultimate wholeness.
Rob Kall: Yeah.
Well, it's been an interesting time.
Let us hopes that some of these ideas can rise above the powers of
weapons and money and become more powerful.
Andrew Schmookler: I do believe that the battle has been moving
in our direction in the last year and a half (1.5 years) and we should take
some heart from that, and I do believe there are effective ways of fighting
this fight, and part of the problem has been that the people on our side of the
divide have also not seen it, have not been on fire. "The best lack all conviction." The need to be inspired and to perceive what
it is we're fighting against, because as Walter Johnson, the great pitcher of
the 1920s said, "You can't hit what you can't see." That's what I'm trying to make sure that
we're all ready to step into the batting box to see the ball we've got to hit.
Rob Kall: All right.
This is the Rob Kall Bottom Up Radio Show, WNJC 1360 AM. You can find the recordings at iTunes,
looking for my name, Rob Kall, or at Opednews.com/podcasts . Thanks Andy.
Andrew Schmookler: Thank you Rob. Thanks for having me on the show.
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