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What is Global Dimming and Why Does it Matter?

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This phenomenon has been known about for some time, though the magnitude of it is at long last well known to many--actually too few and too late, I fear. Guy McPherson allows others to explain it well enough. I recall discussing it in an interview I did with him, and digging up an older video that he couldn't seem to find at the time. But this goes far beyond the smaller clip I somehow dug up, and more clearly explains the problem, or seemingly paradox (the former being solvable, the latter more like death, as in unsolvable) and dire implications.

Much hoopla out there about Greta, who I am thankful for (evidently along with George Soros, her main sponsor near as I can tell). But it is these kinds of physical realities that make all else meaningless, in terms of "protest." The specific problems, not to mention the systemic ones, are not even addressed by the IPCC or the Green New Deal, nor even "institutionalized climatologists." But the video speaks for itself and I post it for interested parties to ponder.

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I have not started watching the video yet but I have watched several of McPherson talking about global dimming. It's damned if you do and damned if you don't. I would think "damned" would be a "negative" making "damned-if-you-do" and "damned-if-you-don't" a double negative making global dimming combined with global warming a positive. Daniel, what am I missing?

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The video explains it well. Which is why I posted it. All the hoopla about the GND, yada, yada, but very few understanding details or offering viable solutions. I've communicated with a climatologist in Greenland, given this topic much thought, yakked with Guy about it, and wish I had more chemistry etc. to ponder much deeper. Still think a lot about it and and reconnecting with an old friend who is way up in the chem field.

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Daniel, I was joking about the "double negative." I should have put a smiley face at the end of my comment. But, you have to give me credit for being creatively stupid! :)

I have said this many times. I say stupid stuff just to entertain myself. If anyone else finds it entertaining, all the better. :)

Note: After watching several McPherson videos I do understand the global dimming/global warming catch-22. And that is what it is, a catch-22.

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I just started watching your video and it is one of the ones I have seen re: global dimming. It is excellent. I actually thought I might post it or ask you if you wanted to. I mean, climate change is your topic. Glad you posted it.

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I think it's fair to say we are all together in this and I'm ok if we all act a bit kinder and at least stop acting like we're in Dumbfkistan.

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My antennae go up with such dramatic audio/visual effects. The information in this video is quite likely factually accurate. Not being educated in science, I have neither argument nor concurrence to offer.

However, the music (louder than the speakers at times) along with the dire photography, blip after blip, tends to make me pull back, and weigh the Fear Porn factor. And the potential reasons behind it. Perfect scenario for the PTB's Hegelian Dialect game.

I have no doubt at all: We wee folk are in deep trouble...coming at us from numerous sides; climate not being the least of our worries.

I also have no doubt that friends and family who don't want me ticking off the dangers headed 'round the bend....well, they seem to be happy more often than I am.

I don't know the answer to this psychological dilemma. Facts is facts. Yet my spirit really wants to say "Don't Worry. Be Happy."

(That was a kinda silly song, wasn't it?) LOL LOL Let's all be silly today. :)

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You are right Janet. That was a kinda silly song. After you reminding me of that song, I am thinking maybe "Don't Worry, Be Happy" should become my working philosophy to live by to get me through to the end times. What do you think? :)


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Actually its not really all that silly. Just checked the lyrics.

(Here I give you my phone number

When you worry call me, I make you happy)

"Don't Worry, Be Happy"

Here's a little song I wrote
You might want to sing it note for note
Don't worry, be happy
In every life we have some trouble
When you worry you make it double
Don't worry, be happy
Don't worry, be happy now

Ooh, ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh ooh oo-ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh
(Don't worry)
Ooh oo-ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh
(Be happy)
Ooh oo-ooh oo-ooh
(Don't worry, be happy)
Ooh, ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh ooh oo-ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh
(Don't worry)
Ooh oo-ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh
(Be happy)
Ooh oo-ooh oo-ooh
(Don't worry, be happy)

Ain't got no place to lay your head
Somebody came and took your bed
Don't worry, be happy
The land lord say your rent is late
He may have to litigate
Don't worry, be happy
(Look at me I'm happy)

Ooh, ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh ooh oo-ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh
(Don't worry)
Ooh oo-ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh
(Be Happy)
Ooh oo-ooh oo-ooh
Here I give you my phone number
When you worry call me, I make you happy
Ooh, ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh ooh oo-ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh
(Don't worry)
Ooh oo-ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh
(Be happy)
Ooh oo-ooh oo-ooh

Ain't got no cash, ain't got no style
Ain't got no gal to make you smile
But don't worry, be happy
'Cause when you worry your face will frown
And that will bring everybody down
So don't worry, be happy
Don't worry, be happy now

Ooh, ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh ooh oo-ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh
(Don't worry)
Ooh oo-ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh
(Be happy)
Ooh oo-ooh oo-ooh
Don't worry, be happy
Ooh, ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh ooh oo-ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh
(Don't worry)
Ooh oo-ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh
(Be happy)
Ooh oo-ooh oo-ooh
Don't worry, be happy

Now there, is this song I wrote
I hope you learned it note for note
Like good little children
Don't worry, be happy
Listen to what I say
In your life expect some trouble
When you worry you make it double
Don't worry, be happy, be happy now

Ooh, ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh ooh oo-ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh
(Don't worry)
Ooh oo-ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh
(Be happy)
Ooh oo-ooh oo-ooh
Don't worry, be happy
Ooh, ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh ooh oo-ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh
(Don't worry)
Ooh oo-ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh
(Be happy)
Ooh oo-ooh oo-ooh
Don't worry, be happy

Ooh, ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh ooh oo-ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh
(Don't worry)
Ooh oo-ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh
(Don't worry, don't worry, don't do it, be happy)
Ooh oo-ooh oo-ooh
(Put a smile on your face, don't bring everybody down)
Ooh, ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh ooh oo-ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh
(Don't worry)
Ooh oo-ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh
(It will soon pass, whatever it is)
Ooh oo-ooh oo-ooh
Don't worry, be happy
Ooh oo-ooh oo-ooh
I'm not worried, I'm happy

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Know what? I have come to almost depend on your finding a song to match my comments.

We should team up for something; but I can't figure out what that might be OR how to make a buck off it. :)

--written from the United States of Dumbfuckistan (I stole this nation name from somebody else. I like it and plan to use it whenever applicable.) :)

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Janet, I have to admit I used to be a terribly serious YDF.


But no longer! I am somewhat less serious ODF! ­čś│

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That was one of our aerobic songs for more time than I wanted. I couldn't even do it back in the 80's. Ironically, I am better at being here now than I was back then. I guess it is that wisdom and not giving a sh*t, that comes with age. Anyway, watch the NOVA and Hubble video I posted earlier, to get perspective and keep your spirits up... at least that works for me. Right now it's wine, sitting in the yard with Christine, two dogs, garden and birds.

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Maybe the video does explain something, but it looks like about 2 minutes of data padded out with ominous stories and music. Could we please just have the facts, man?

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I admit I didn't hear or see the ominous. Highly unusual. I was focused on what appear to be facts, that I'm largely familiar with. I'll watch again, but can't much more to say.

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The part of this concept that seems a bit shaky to me is this: what about a gradual decrease in smog cover? Unless there is a sudden severe collapse, that would be the most likely, if it ever were to happen at all. Couldn't it be sort of "feathered into" the system so that things keep getting a little better all the time with minimal "bad"? It seems like an obvious objection; have you ever brought it up with Guy? But maybe the timetable is wrong and it couldn't work out like that.

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Good question and yes, I did. He did not dismiss the possibility out of hand, just that he had no idea how. It is one part of vastly larger problems, but one of the very questions we should be asking. You may want to check my last interview with Guy, long though it is.

My biggest question, other than how to change human behavior, is how in hell can we dump heat into space, which is something like -457F all around our pale blue dot? E.g., could we develop ways to "paralyze" CO2 vibrations in large places around the oceans? Or beam IR waves out? And what about pulling CO2 out of the oceans using stationary devices that passively let water current run through them?

Things I ponder daily, a few of many. As much to keep my brain working, as much as to allow it to work as it always has.

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I have never advocated geoengineering, much prefer biomimicry, but we certainly appear to be at the end of our rope.

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I have never advocated geoengineering, much prefer biomimicry, but we certainly appear to be at the end of our rope.

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Important to remember that we can't be at the end of our rope twice. :)'s & love

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But it seems like.I've been there many times!.It isn't the end of the rope that bothers me, so much as the escalating horror show that I have trouble with.

"I am not afraid of death. I was dead for 3.7 billion years before I was born, and it didn't inconvenience me in the least.." --MT

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Fred, I think it goes something like this. CO2 stays in the atmosphere a long time. So even if we reduce burning fossil fuels a little at a time to reduce global dimming a little at a time there will still be enough CO2 around to warm things like a greenhouse. But reducing the burning of fossil fuels will reduce the global dimming which will heat up the globe more than the reduction in CO2 will reduce the greenhouse effect because there will still be more than enough CO2 for a long time. And, we are already at the point of no return given the fact the feedback loops are already churning adding to the heating.

The only way to slow down or stop the feedback loops would be to actually cool the globe, not just reduced the heating. I have heard of no way to actually cool the globe, much less, do it quickly.

Like I said, I think it goes something like that. I recommend you do not quote me.

:)

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Fair analysis imo. We have too many blankets on. But if we take them off, our powerful overhead lamp will turn us into crispy critters rather quickly.

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Very good way to describe the global warming/dimming dilemma.

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I might add for further clarification that our "blankets" are greatly reflective, hence bouncing sunlight out. It is the rapid stripping them off that puts us in thermal overdrive, which is a major monkey wrench and something that would take millions or billions of years to adapt to, if it were possible at all.

And I haven't even mentioned cloud cover, which is major, let alone methane bursts and NO2, among others, which give us "positive feedback loops," or more correctly negative ones.

Which is where physical climatologists seem to miss the boat. I've been an avid follower of evolution since high school and my bio degree in 1971.

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