Thom: I agree and if you look at the main reason why they're grabbing those powers, it's so that they can hand out contracts to people who are funding their campaigns.
Rob: Well if they're not...
Thom: You have the spy contracts, the defense contracts, the"
Rob: If they're not grabbing powers. It's the opposite, they're giving up powers.
Thom: Rob, the same thing. I mean, yeah, they're -- actually I would say it's both. They're claiming the right to snoop on you and there is people who profit on the snooping. If you were to do away with the ability of corporations or rich people to finance campaigns, then you could have a president who would actually do the right thing because he wouldn't worry about being squashed like a bug in the next election by the money from the defense contractors for example.
Rob: Wait, wait, what I was saying is that between the Supreme Court and the Executive Branch, the White House, they've both grabbed a lot of power and the Congress has allowed them to do it. They've given up power; that's what I'm saying.
Thom: Yeah, I don't disagree because they're all bought off by the same people.
Rob: So unless"
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