Rob: Well, you know, it gave me a chill just thinking that maybe the answer is for people to start writing songs about Corporate Personhood.
Thom: Could be. The bottom line, Rob, and you know this, you've been preaching this all your life, is movement politics. Things don't happen from the top down in this country, they happen from the bottom up and now they only happen from the bottom up when the people are (a) pissed off and (b) informed. The people are pretty much (a) right now but we've got to get them informed as well.
Rob: Is there progress on that, getting them informed?
Thom: Yeah.
Rob: Is the mainstream media talking about this? I guess Dylan Ratigan is. Any other"
Thom: Well sort of. I mean. Dylan Ratigan, he's opposed to ending Corporate Personhood altogether. He just wants a constitutional amendment that says that Congress can regulate money in elections which is the half-measure that I think is dangerous actually because it leaves intact Corporate Personhood. But I'm guessing that's just because he doesn't understand the situation that well. I think his intentions are really good.
The fact though, as you pointed out, Rob, virtually every occupy movement has a sign that says, "I'll believe the corporation is a person when Texas execute a corporation." That tells me that the education is working. As you pointed out to me in this interview, 10 years ago, 12 years ago when I wrote the book, the first book on Corporate Personhood, Unequal Protection, everybody was going, "Corporate what?" And for better part of eight or nine years people are going, "Corporate what?" Everybody knows what it is now, so I think it's working. You're doing your job, I'm doing my job, it's getting out there.
Rob: All right. Thanks, Thom.
Thom: We just need to do more of it.
Rob: That's what it is.
Thom: Good talking to you. Thanks for having me on.
Rob: Okay. You want to talk a little bit about your show? Talk a little bit about your show for a minute.
Thom: You can learn about it at thomhartmann.com. There's a list of our radio stations and I do radio show like you do radio show and we're...
Rob: No.
Thom: "patriots and spreading the word. I mean, it's an important thing.
Rob: Well, first of all, you don't do a radio show like I do a radio show. You do three hours a day, five days a week and it's unbelievable show. The top elimination, I do an hour a week so it's not in the same planet or galaxy.
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