U.S. SOLDIER 2: Clear.
U.S. SOLDIER 3: I hear 'em -- I lost 'em in the dust.
U.S. SOLDIER 6: I got 'em.
U.S. SOLDIER 2: Should have a van in the middle of the road with about 12 to 15 bodies.
U.S. SOLDIER 3: Oh, yeah, look at that. Right through the windshield! Ha ha!
AMY GOODMAN: Just a small excerpt from the "Collateral Murder" video, as it was so called, released by WikiLeaks in 2010, that showed this group of people killed -- I believe it was 12 in all -- two of them from Reuters. Namir Noor-Eldeen was an up-and-coming videographer, 22 years old. His driver, Saeed Chmagh, was a father of four. Reuters attempted to get this video for several years. It was only, Chelsea, when you had this released that they were able to see what happened to their staff.
CHELSEA MANNING: Yeah. The video stands on its own. It explains an enormous amount of not just this moment, but of what the reality of warfare looks like. And, I mean, I'm going to talk about this more, in much greater detail, in my book. But it's clear in this video. It doesn't need an explanation. You just have to watch it.
AMY GOODMAN: And what was it like for you the day -- do you remember the day you first saw this video? Where were you sitting?
CHELSEA MANNING: I mean, it was among hundreds of other similar ones. It's just that there's more -- there was more information about the aftermath of this incident because there was an investigation following it. But --
AMY GOODMAN: Because the Reuters journalists were killed?
CHELSEA MANNING: I mean -- yeah. So, apart from that, it's just routine--it's just a routine incident. Just another day.
JUAN GONZÃ LEZ: And was part of your decision to try to get this out that there were so many of these -- I mean, this is a publicized incident, but there were so many others that never got any kind of publicity outside of Iraq at all, if even in Iraq. Part of that, your sense that this needed to get out to the world?
CHELSEA MANNING: Right. And I'm going to talk more about that in my book, but yeah. I would say that the video stands on its own. And, you know, I can try and explain it, but -- and, yeah, this is not -- this is not unusual. This is not a freak incident. This is what war is, in a nutshell.
AMY GOODMAN: And so, WikiLeaks releases the video. From that point, when was it that you got arrested in Iraq?
CHELSEA MANNING: Oh, it was a few months later. I was busy. I was working a lot.
AMY GOODMAN: And explain what happened to you when you were arrested, where you were taken.
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