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MARC STEINER [laughs] Right.
COLEEN ROWLEY That's the problem right now with the public and it's emotional. It's not fact-based. You know, Aaron Mate is one of the best writers about this because he deals with facts and this is not what the public wants to hear. They just want to hear this emotional stuff. You know, Schiff beating his chest on these things, and "it's not patriotic," etc. It kind of hearkens back to the McCarthyism where they used a foreign country as this demon in order to try to score political points domestically. And that is simply wrong.
MARC STEINER And this has simply been a good conversation. Coleen Rowley, I want to thank you for your time and I look forward to talking to you again. Thank you so much.
COLEEN ROWLEY Thank you.
MARC STEINER And I'm Marc Steiner here at The Real News Network. Thank you all so much for joining us. Let us know what you think. Take care.
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