The government can come at you and spend as much money as they want. You know I joke about this but this is true. You know what happens when the government runs out of money? They print more. If you need more investigation you just go over to the mint and print more. Now Christie is facing this. If there is a real investigation and I don't know how there cannot be. How can a mayor of a city come in and say she was extorted or attempted extorted and you not investigate it? You have got to fight that. And it's going to take millions of dollars to do it.
R.K.: So when you defended Blago, there were twenty three or twenty four charges and only one of them stuck, the other ones were hung jury, what were the ones that did not stick?
S.A.: With Blago there were twenty four and we hung on twenty three. Now at the time, and I got to give Patrick Fitzgerald credit for this, right after it was hung it was learned that on the Senate Seat count, that it was hung eleven to one, that there was one individual that said look he didn't do anything here we can't, but on every single other count which was a wire and mail fraud for instance, the Mayor of Chicago now, but at the time was a Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel, supposedly it was alleged that there was a school here in Chicago that Rahm Emanuel wanted to build a football field or funds expended to build a football field and allegedly Blagojevich said look have your brother do a fundraiser for me, you know his brother is Ari out in California who is a big time agent, have him raise some money for me and then I'll give it to you. That was hung.
Supposedly there was an individual by the name of Patrick Magoon who was head of Children's Memorial Hospital in Chicago who was looking to get a lot of funds for the hospital and supposedly and allegedly he told Magoon, look you give me twenty five thousand dollar contribution I'll make sure you get your money, that was hung. But not on eleven to one.
On the twenty three of the twenty four charges, only one was hung eleven to one, everything else was either six to six or seven five, there were a couple in which there was more not guilty than guilty. The reason I bring that up is to say if it's done right, and you have the resources to come forward and show these things in a different light, you can have success. You can have real, real success here and knock on wood at that time we had some success. The thing I couldn't fight was when his lawyers had Blago go down and talk to the Feds without being recorded in some way.
That was done by a different law firm years earlier, which is to say here, Christie should look at this. One of the things Christie should do is seriously take a sit down with an experienced criminal defense attorney and say how should I handle this? I know I have a political life, and you have to take that into account, but I also have to be out here for my family and not be in prison. Am I making the right statement? Should I make statements? Is this something that I should still pursue? Should being in Florida and trying to become President of the United States really something that I should do here because when the Feds throw the weight of the Federal Government behind you, and this is, I can give you my quote at the time, it doesn't apply now but in Blago I said, in my closing argument I said, look at this, all of the weight of the Federal Government comes here and they can't show you a single dime that he took? Follow the money. They can't show you one dollar that he put into his pocket? It's because he is not corrupt. The same people who are chasing Bin Laden are chasing him and they can't show it. But the power of that is to say, look how powerful this Federal Government is and this is when they throw the weight behind you it effects your entire life and Christie has got that coming.
Now all I can tell you is especially in my opinion, after yesterday, the full force of the Federal Government is going to be investigating this. When they pull a guy out of Chicago to come over there who already got a governor convicted, they're taking it seriously. And if they do that, he has got a huge fight on his hand.
R.K.: Now the first time when you defended Blago it was a hung jury on all but one count. Was he going to go to jail because of that count?
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