Already the Governor of Florida won't do anything in public with him. Now that's got to effect you tremendously just by the hint of an investigation. Just by the hint of doing something wrong. People are backing away from donating campaign contributions which means you can't win as President of the United States. That's why Obama overwhelmingly won. It takes money to win at this game. The republican leader for the governors, chairman I should say, he is the chairman of the Republican Governor Caucus or whatever the actual term it. You're going to watch, he is going to have to give that up.
He can't be effective if the Federal Government is investigating him and he goes in to a state where a republican governor needs help and every one is backing away from him. The Feds can mess your life up completely. You know that they're going to go right at his taxes, you know that every single thing that's going to happen here, they're going to look at whether or not he reported his taxes right. You can say anything you want about the Feds but the one person that got away from everything is Al Capone. But they got him on taxes. That's what is coming. It's going to really and truly effect the rest of his life.
R.K.: So it's going to cost him a lot of money to defend this. I've talked to a number of whistleblowers and folks who the US Attorneys, under Karl Rove have gone after like Don Siegelman and Cyril Wecht and John McTiernan, he was the director of a couple of Die Hard movies and he ended up saying something to the FBI that I think was a lie at one point or something, I mean I don't even want to say that but it was a small thing that he is now in jail.
S.A.: Right.
R.K.: And I know that it costs millions of dollars to defend against these charges. Where is that money going to come from? Is he allowed to use the resources of the state to pay for his defense?
S.A.: Now that's a very interesting question. All I can tell you is in my dealings with this, just like Blagojevich, take Blagojevich as an example. At the moment Blagojevich was arrested he was a sitting governor and he had 2.8 million dollars in his campaign fund. Now I can say this because it's all a public record because we went before the judge and this is what happened there. The government said look, he shouldn't be able to use his campaign fund to fund his defense.
The Attorney General here in Illinois, Lisa Madigan said she's not going to defend him. So he has to do this privately. So what the Judge did was, he said listen I will allow him to use what's left in his campaign fund but I am going to dole it out in public defender rates. So every lawyer that worked on the case had to work at public defender rates. My father, me, the individuals we had working for us, we ended up having experts and getting all of that done and we went through 2.8 million dollars at public defender rates before the trial even started.
R.K.: Wow.
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