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Losing debates and losing strategies

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Let's stipulate up front that there are several ways to score a debate. The most obvious, though not necessarily the most important in the long run, is to simply ask a group of people. Several informal polls did this, but as Fortune Magazine points out, these may not be very scientific:

These informal polls should be taken with a healthy dose of skepticism, but they do provide an interesting counterpoint to the consensus of the beltway media.

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For example, the Huffington Post ran this article on their front page: HuffPost/YouGov Poll: Hillary Clear Debate Winner
Now, reading that, who wouldn't think Hillary Clinton won the debate according to a HuffPost/YouGov Poll. After all, that's what it says, right?
But when you click on the link, it goes to this article:

Democrats Name Clinton The Debate Winner In HuffPost/YouGov Poll

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See the difference? Now it is just Democrats who Named Clinton in the HuffPost/YouGov Poll, 55% to 23%.

Only this isn't the whole story either.

First, this is a poll of only 1,000 people, and it's all web-based.

Second, if you open the PDF link showing the actual poll, you find out there are only 217 Democrats in the subcategory breakdown #4 out of 6, in question 3 of the 7-question poll. That is the only place there is such a lopsided support for Clinton over Sanders, it seems.

The total for question

3. Democratic Debate Winner
Which candidate do you think did the best job -- or won -- the debate?"

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is Clinton: 38% though she won and Sanders: 22% thought he won, a considerably closer score, when gender, other party affiliations, age etc. are all rolled up together (remember, this is a poll of only 1,000 respondents, with a 4% margin of error, and that only if you're looking at the total. The number of respondents who are Democrats is less than 1/4 of that).

But here's an odd question to start the poll too:

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Scott Baker is a Managing Editor & The Economics Editor at Opednews, and a blogger for Huffington Post, Daily Kos, and Global Economic Intersection.

His anthology of updated Opednews articles "America is Not Broke" was published by Tayen Lane Publishing (March, 2015) and may be found here:

Scott is a former President of Common Ground-NYC (http://commongroundnyc.org/), a Geoist/Georgist activist group. He has written dozens of articles for (more...)

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