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Putin and His Spy Chiefs Use Deranged Trump to Destabilize America

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Today, The Guardian broke the most disturbing news to emerge in a continuum of such news.

According to The Guardian, in January of 2016, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered his security services to "use all force" to get Republican candidate Donald J. Trump elected President of the US in 2016.

Putin has repeatedly denied accusations of interfering in western democracy. The documents seem to contradict this claim. They suggest the president, his spy officers and senior ministers were all intimately involved in one of the most important and audacious espionage operations of the 21st century: a plot to help put the "mentally unstable" Trump in the White House, declares The Guardian..

The documents leaked from the Kremlin are genuine, according to a variety of independent experts on Kremlin communications and security procedures. The Guardian does not say exactly how it came in possession of the papers-- i.e., who leaked them.

What is most disturbing about these papers, and the decisions made at the top level of Russian Federation government in this meeting, is the apparent conclusion that it is a positive step to not only allow, but to aid, a mentally unstable (to say nothing of blindingly ignorant of American history, and utterly opposed to traditional American political traditions and procedures) candidate to become POTUS.

Apparently the decision was reached at this meeting that the "turmoil" that the election, and Presidency, of Trump would cause among the US people, and the skeletons in Donald Trump's closet which Russia possessed, would weaken the US, and allow Russia to undertake "bold" foreign policy initiatives.

There was no talk among the heads of the Russian security apparatuses about whether a mentally unstable US President might, in some crucial moment in the progression of his inferiority complex, authorize the use of nuclear weapons. Apparently they must have concluded that Trump's degree of mental instability was not dangerous enough to endanger Russia, but severe enough to damage his own country.

And besides that, they concluded that Russia's palpable new influence on American political decisions would also induce America's allies not to go along with, or weaken, sanctions imposed by the US.

How dangerous was Trump considered by those who might, in extremis, have had to disobey his orders?

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According to KVIA.com, excerpts of an upcoming book, I Alone Can Fix It, from Pulitzer Prize-winning Washington Post reporters Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker, show that the top U.S. military officer, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Army Gen. Mark Milley, was so shaken that then-President Donald Trump and his allies might attempt a coup or take other dangerous or illegal measures after the November election that Milley and other top officials informally planned for different ways to stop Trump.

The excerpts, published by CNN, describe how Milley and the other Joint Chiefs discussed a plan to resign, one-by-one, rather than carry out orders from Trump that they considered to be illegal, dangerous or ill-advised.

"This is a Reichstag moment," Milley told aides, according to the book. "The gospel of the Fuhrer."

Ahead of a November pro-Trump "Million MAGA March" to protest the election results, Milley told aides he feared it "could be the modern American equivalent of 'brownshirts in the streets,'" referring to the pro-Nazi militia that fueled Hitler's rise to power.

How would Russia have reacted if there were a successful coup or if Trump tried to fire nukes? Well, first of all, we must be reassured by what Milley told Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, when the two conferred after the January 6 insurrection.

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Early on in the Trump Administration-- even during his time as President-Elect, when he tweeted Putin, "let there be an arms race. We'll win..."-- I called Putin the adult in the room. He and Dmitri Medvedev, his second-in-command, almost had convinced me that it was not any of Russia's fault that NATO was encroaching on the borders of Russian spheres of influence.

But, in fact, Putin has taken the path of aggression in a way that reminds me of Stalin. Millions aren't dying, of course; Putin will not preside over that, he's too intelligent.

Somehow, on some level, I think Putin may care about Russia and Russians. But others: not so much.

These revelations certainly indicate that he has devolved from one of the central and crucial statesmen whose involvement is needed to solve the complex of crises facing the human race to a mere schemer for a Greater Russia. To call Vladimir Putin an imperialist would not be out of place.

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"To call Vladimir Putin an imperialist would not be out of place."

He's certainly defensive of what few remnants of the Soviet empire remain, but he doesn't seem to be very interested in (re-)expanding it.

For example, even when Georgia attacked the pro-Russian enclaves in Abkhazia and South Ossetia, he didn't try to re-absorb Georgia itself. Just whipped them and went back to business as usual.

Even after the herculean western efforts to pull Ukraine out of the Russian orbit, he merely supported ethnic Russian secessionists in e.g. Crimea and Donbass rather than marching on Kiev.

The only real foreign adventurism he's engaged in that I can think of offhand has been in Syria, a long-term ally, where the goal seems to have been to protect Russia's only existing Mediterranean bases.

Putin's a lot of bad things, but "imperialist" doesn't really seem to be one of them.

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Hi, Thomas, nice to see you. I was in fact thinking about Crimea when I used the word. And all these places are still at risk of being absorbed (well, not Syria) under other geopolitical circumstances. I think Putin probably has concluded that even if Russia did not lose such a war on Kiev, it could end up as isolated as North Korea. Germany probably wouldn't want their oil, might cancel the pipeline. Likewise, a huge new bureaucratic responsibility-- administering Georgia-- may have reasonably appeared a distraction, or an obstacle, to Russian assertion of world-power status.

Parts of the Symonenko report did not deal with the plot. The recommendation was made to draw away from Europe and closer to China regarding energy policy.

I appreciate your engagement! Hope you're keeping cool, we're having a cool summer in Mississippi so far.

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Disinformation experts doubt authenticity of leaked documents describing a Russian plot to help Trump in 2016 (msn.com)

There will, of course, be proponents of a Russian plot-within-a-plot. Chris Krebs could be right. And I suspect we will hear more about the chain of custody of these documents from The Guardian, and soon.

I expect Mr. Putin is making the "expert" who allegedly wrote the document, one Mr. Symonenko, very inaccessible.

And Fiona Hill is not a responsible and unbiased analyst of Russian affairs or motives.

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This sh*t is what states do, particularly the U(nited) States. It's like finding a pimple on a rats ass and saying - it's got leprosy. The history with Crimea is known, need it be repeated. A land mass attached to Russia, and used by Russia a the only warm port for its navy was threatened by a US funded coup in Ukraine - the evidence is overwhelming. The vast majority of Crimea are Russian nationals, and a legal resolution was voted on by those people and overwhelmingly approved the union with Russia. The US/NATO did this with the Balkans.

Need we talk about this as if people are dumb-sh@ts, and since most are too busy shopping you can say whatever you like, no matter how ahistorical it is.

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What are US intentions toward Russia?

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assessed to be leaked

the papers suggest

appearing to bear Putin's signature

agencies are understood to have been aware of the documents

This story was written by the CIA or Hillary Clinton or even the Lincoln Project and given to the Guardian to keep us from monitoring the tremendous spending that Congress is now considering which will be advertised as helping Citizens, but, like the CARES act, will ensure more wealth transferred to the Oligarchy.

It is a scam.

Caitlin Johnston further demolishes the fraud being perpetrated by Harding.

Mr. Homans, are you so obsessed with being anti-Fascist that you allow yourself to be duped by other Fascists?

Flogging this ridiculous propaganda creates distrust of the Leonnig/Rucker book, which sounds more and more like a hyperbolic fable written to further cause division between Red and Blue MAGA. (BTW the article is an CNN article -- you know the "alternative to Fox").

Choosing to make Nancy Pelosi a hero of this "plot against America" needs to be balanced by her corruption exposed by Glenn Greenwald-- who doesn't qualify any of his accusations. (Interesting that the same article published here on OEN, has no comments.)

One from Greenwald's substack sums up the problem quite well:

It's not like the MSM will be all over this. Too busy with hard hitting stories on our dementia-ridden President selecting a flavor of ice cream.

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A comment from Johnstone's article (link in other comments) revealing more Harding lies. Why should we believe him this time? He is a primary actor in the crucifixion of Julian Assange.

James Simpson11 hr ago

Given The Guardian's history with Luke Harding, it's less than shocking for the site to publish this nonsense. "In 2011 Guardian journalists David Leigh and Luke Harding published a book, WikiLeaks: Inside Julian Assange's War on Secrecy. The book provided a passphrase to the unredacted US cables.

The passphrase Leigh and Harding disclosed featured prominently in a chapter heading of the book. It's worth mentioning that Harding was also co-author of a Guardian article that claimed Paul Manafort, Donald Trump's former campaign manager, met with Assange at the Ecuadorian embassy in London. In an exclusive, The Canary went on to report the claim that the story was false."

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Joe Lauria absolutely destroys Harding's pulp fiction. Christopher Steele has long been shown to be a prevaricator of Russian Intrigue. There are so many actors and actions now involved with "Russiagate" that no one knows what to believe any longer.

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Hillary looked terribly keen to attack Russia, making Trump the Peace Candidate, whatever his other liabilities. Who can blame Putin for using the same methods as many US corporations to influence the election? The US has not been shy about dirty tricks, even using assassination to veto many other democracies. Anyone who has wanted to attack Russia for over a century has gotten backing from the US. In the middle of the Depression, Ford bought Germany the world's best Air Force, and the ensuing war cost Russia far more than any of the western powers. The US has not been able to control its own military-industrial complex ever since.

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We're destabilizing ourselves. Look in the mirror usa.

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That shitlibs still believe this recycled rubbish of Russiagate goes to show that Trump Derangement Syndrome is incurable.

How many times does it take to prove there was no "hack" of the DNC emails. It was a leak. That makes the Guardian article and its author Luke Harding garbage.

Shitlibs have gone nutz. The purloined emails proved that the DNC conspired against one of their own, St. Bernie. That is what liberals should be furious about. But shitlibs aren't because they are lazy, have no principles and have TDS. All they do is whine about Trump and Republicans.

Liberals have abandoned Julian Assange, but they will never abandon the DNC no matter how many times they get sh*t on. That's why they are shitlibs.

P.S. The proof is that this article is headlined and Glenn Greenwald's article is buried.

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Well, that's the best load of responses I ever got here. Thank you, gentlemen. I don't trust the intentions of the US in foreign affairs any more than I do Russia's (or China's). Nobody wants to save the human race from its own destruction.


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We're living in a climate crisis, and creating it at the same time.

It's an existential war we're suffering and waging, it's a crime.

But there's no one duly delegated to prosecute the perpetrators,

And those who try are ignored by the biggest profit-makers.

Liars, thieves and criminals are threatening all life.

Everything is sacrificed for the old paradigm,

Dig every ounce of earth up, sell it,

Sell all the water you don't pollute,

Don't give a rat's ass for the future. I'm

As much a patriot as any of my kin before,

But our military mission's gone askew.

Its owners are a few cruel men who make the tools of war

And their managers, voted in by me and you

It's all one war, I said it before, a few short years ago:

Against false enemies, and Mother Earth.

To be or not to be, is the question we all know

Describes the stakes. What are our lives worth?

We must resist, must raise our fist, against this evil pack.

Crow Dog said we have few years to stop

Tearing our Mother, or she will take herself back

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Putin's intentions are no less nefarious than those of any Administration of the neoconserv-- I mean United States-- government (which is a helluva high bar to clear) during his tenure. I reckon I don't care if you don't think so.

I am a lifetime anti-fascist (nothing to do with antifa). Ain't nobody duping me.

And I will be ready to congratulate everybody who commented here that this Putin plot is false when it proves false. It's hard to see how making Putin out to be exactly the meddler in our democracy that he has been made out to be since back in the last Administration works as a Russian disinformation operation. What, is Putin secretly a saint, lololol??

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From my garden-- squash blossoms, tomatoes, red chiles and hot yellow banana peppers, onion, and my last sprigs of parseley. Hope you're eating as well.......... :)

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I got mt first shot and as soon as that cocktail waitress comes by I'm going to get my 2nd!

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I know you are an entertainer and want things to get back to normal so you can get back to doing what you do, but to want everyone to take this experimental jab is selfish. Here is what another artist has to say about it:

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I just KNEW you would be referring to Eric Clapton! Eric has done a thing or two in his musical career, but as a career laborer and driver, a bluesman, and a contemporary of Clapton-- I believe he is 4 years older than I-- I will declare that Clapton has ridden the back of the blues, but never actually lived the life of them. He's even a well-documented racist.

You must believe like a fellow here named Nafziger, who would just as soon human beings would just let infection take its natural course in the direction of herd insan-- I mean, herd immunity.

I don't know that things can ever get back to normal, Tim. I have a three-show mini-tour scheduled for next week, if the states the gigs are in do not lock down, or declare low audience limits in entertainment (and other) venues. Springfield and St. Louis, MO, and Jacksonville, IL. Springfield is being slammed. Then on the 20th of August I am to play a festival here in Mississippi, and our new-case rate is spiking again. And it's not even winter yet!

My ambition for 2022 is to have enough work that I will have to pay taxes. Everyone I say that to laughs-- "you really want to pay taxes!?" But they understand, after a minute's reflection.

I am glad that despite my political radicalism I am a paleo-conservative regarding my personal finances. I have no debts whatsoever, and in the poorest state in the Union I can get by on my Social Security and what small local shows I get.

Selfish? Really? I want as many people as possible to live. People who are unvaccinated make 99% of the cases of Covid. They not only threaten others' lives, some indeterminate number of them are enforcing their political irresponsibility by inculcating health-measure resistance in their children. THAT'S selfish.

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If you have been vaccinated you should be ok, right? The number of breakthrough cases are rising. Do you really think vaccinating the entire planet is going to solve this? I don't see that happening.

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Tim,

If you wish, see:

globalresearch.ca/video graphene oxide a toxic substance in the vial of the covid 19 mrna vaccine 5750340

and/or

globalresearch.ca/humanity march toward extinction 5750260

The more I see a playing out of the "Grand Chessboard," and the prevalence of people with authoritarian/"Masters of the Universe" complexes, the more suspicious I am of vaccines.

It's true that the current version may be more or less harmless, or, on the other hand, a "dry run" for future versions (strategic "dry runs" being the norm for false flag operations"), or it may contain contents aimed at reducing the population in 10, 20, 30 years - when things are likely to get really hairy.

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thanks Blair, I read the first one and i'll check out the other. I check out GR almost daily.

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This is an experimental vaccine. Nobody should be forced to take it. There are alternatives that have been proven to work but there's not a lot of money to made from it.

Biologist Bret Weinstein says we could make covid extinct if everyone on the planet took a few Ivermectin tablets today. Or we could keep taking an experimental mRNA therapeutic that doesn't prevent infection or stop the spread and creates variants according the scientist who discovered HIV

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Well, that's the first time I ever saw anybody blame the creation of variants on vaccines. I will not go by that, for the time being.

Nobody is being forced to take vaccines. The substantial majority of those who will not take vaccines are Republicans, who are making their own decisions (and undoubtedly, some are inculcating vaccine resistance in their children). That's the effect of politicization of vaccination.

My Orkin exterminator is immunocompromised, and wears a mask always, but will not take a vaccine because of the proven problems with development of immunity among immunocompromied people. I get it, from George. But such people comprise 1% or less-- far less-- of those who suffer severely bad outcomes.

Ivermectin. Isn't that veterinary medicine?

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I think you need to do a little research on Ivermectin.

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I have now read a bunch about it, and its testing and use history, in South Africa, Indonesia, and elsewhere is very uncertain. It's an anti-parasitic, for treating gut-worms, and Covid's a virus. And I am quite sure now, without having a package it came in, that this or a related substance gets used to deworm dogs. I will ask my vet next time I take my dawg in to have his nails clipped.

I dunno, about one thing I'm sure, it's got to be better than strong light, or shooting up bleach, for prophylaxis against Covid! Lolololololol (...whew, laughing so hard, gotta siddown...) :)

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Covid: Ivermectin, milk among Indonesia's unproven 'cures' (yahoo.com)

With the surge of the Delta variant in Indonesia, misleading claims about products claiming to be cures and preventions are on the rise.

Hospitals are struggling to cope with soaring numbers of patients and shortages of oxygen, and people are increasingly desperate to get help for sick family or friends.

We have looked at some examples of health misinformation being shared.

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1. Claims that an anti-parasite drug has been approved

There have been growing numbers of Indonesians sharing claims about using the anti-parasitic drug, Ivermectin.

Interest surged after local media reports said incorrectly that the Indonesian authorities had granted it emergency approval.

But the drug is still undergoing trials, and is so far unproven as a cure for Covid.

The reports were based on a 15 July statement issued by the Food and Drugs Authority of Indonesia (BPOM).

But shortly afterwards, BPOM's head, Penny Lukito, told local media that no emergency approval had been given to Ivermectin.

The confusion arose because the medicine was put on a list together with other drugs, two of which did have emergency approval.

Ms Lukito explained that Ivermectin was included because it's undergoing clinical trials at eight hospitals, but the results are not expected until October and no approval has been given so far.

Ivermectin was already being promoted as a treatment by some public figures, despite the World Health Organization's (WHO) warning that it should be used only under certain clinical settings.

Health practitioner Reza Gunawan has been promoting Ivermectin on his Twitter account, where he has more than 350,000 followers.

When we asked him why he was doing this, he replied: "Ivermectin is relatively safe, low cost, effective, fast and easy to implement, and can complement the ongoing vaccination programme."

He added that he is not a medical doctor.

The manufacturer, Merck, has said that there is no scientific study as yet that proves Ivermectin works against Covid-19.

Dr Dicky Budiman, an epidemiologist at Australia's Griffith University, has said it should not be used unsupervised, and that there could be "very serious side effects if it is not used under a doctor's supervision".

There are quite a few countries, including the UK, investigating it as a possible treatment.

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here is one case...................................

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here's another

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it goes on and on. I used to respect you, but you disappoint me with your lack of researching and connecting the dots of what is going on. Like your music though. Peace

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I can stand to be disrespected by individuals, if they are not nasty about it, which you have not been, as certain people have been to me here about the actual topic of this thread (we did not start by talking about this drug and its putative prophylactic or therapeutic efficacy).

I point you to Mr. Wight's post, in which he almost proudly talks about he and his wife's (and his church's) intentional disregard of anti-Covid health measures. We have had plenty of history now of churches and pastors who disregard them, and the superspreaders such pastors and churches have experienced due to their disdain for such measures.

When I "connect the dots," I find more trouble stemming from willful vaccine resistance than might be balanced by the use of a drug that most cannot decide whether it works as a vaccine or only as a therapeutic, i.e., something that makes you feel better once you have caught the disease. I conclude that the benefit is no better documented than that of hydroxychloroquine, though at least it doesn't have a Donald Trump publicizing it, which pretty well makes me to never want to be in the same room with people who depend on it, even though I am fully vaccinated with Moderna since April 13.

I'll bet I've read more about ivermectin now than 9 out of 10 of my colleagues.

BTW, next month we will have another one of the largest vaccine-resistant gatherings in the world, the Sturgis Motorcycle Run. Won't you be interested to see how 250,000-400,000 vaccine resisters deal with the Delta Variant? Yeah, things do go on and on.

I hope you still at least like me, old hippie, even if you think I am missing some points, and I'm glad you enjoy my music, which remains my most important legacy besides my daughter. You can buy my music from www.watermelonslim.com, or email me, and I will send it to you for the price you would pay from the site, except that I will derive several more dollars per CD or DVD, which, as a musician basically unemployed for the last year and a half, is helpful to keep myself as an honorable little nub of debt-free black ink in a seething ocean of red ink (my sole LP, Merry Airbrakes, from 1973, is also available again from Scissortail Records).

And besides, you'll get my works autographed.

If I did not own 100% of everything I possess, and have done so since I quit trucking in 2004 and paid off all my student loans and paid off and closed my only credit card, I'd be in as rough shape as most other Covid-unemployed people. I might be a radical environmentalist and world survivalist politically, but I am a paleo-conservative when it comes to using and saving my own modest assets. Everything I own is worth less than 100 grand, lock stock and barrel, but with my Social Security, I can support me and my dog and keep our heads above that red ink. As for an occasional luxury, I even have a connection for Cuban cigars at a ridiculously low price to smoke very occasionally with cognac or #1-quality bourbon. All I miss in this world is a husband (my second wife died two years ago); I want to touch and be touched again, as lovers do, before I die.

Feb. 26 BETTER LATE THAN NEVER

I don't want to go on alone,

Over the years that loneliness has grown,

And as the time is getting shorter, I've got to say,

I've truly loved my women, but boys, I'm gay.

And it's better late than never

Better late than never that I spoke out

Maybe I'll find that one true man

Who loves me like I love him, no doubt,

It will be better late than never.

I know a few won't understand,

But I'm already a ripe old stalk

I might be harvested at any time,

I hope somebody's listening to this rhyme,

Thinking, "better late than never!

I'm just the guy to give him what he yearns for

I think I'll introduce myself after the show

I'm curious to find out what he burns for!"

It will be better late than never.

Better late than never

Take my arms, take my lips, take my love

Better late than never

There's no time or reason to hold back now

Better late than never

al coda

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Again, God bless you and yours, sir!

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good statement, tim, I'm 92+, take 12mg ivermectin once a month (my 90yo wife, too), wear

no masks, observe no distancing, and attend church 2-3x/wk where folks think similarly.

Also am recovering from stroke but keeping healthy, vit D3,zinc, good immune system, etc.

ivermectin has been taken by humans safely for 6-7 decades with no sideeffects. we get drug

from veterinary suppliea, real cheap.

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At 90+ years old, what have you got to lose by being an anti-vaxx rebel!? Thing is, if you get Covid, you can be the catalyst for a super-spreader. Your whole church can catch it if any of your congregation catch it and bring it to a church frequently where nobody cares about health precautions.

I told Tim McGhie I had seen the drug, or some other similar drug ending in "mectin," at my veterinarian's, and here you are confirming you buy yours from veterinary suppliers.

I pray you may stay safe, Nels, but I fear for you and your wife, as well as all who meet you.

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Ivermectin is safe, but 'not a viable option' to treat Covid-19 study shows

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Ivermectin, an existing drug against parasites including head lice, has had a chequered history when it comes to treating COVID-19.

The bulk of studies so far show there's not enough evidence ivermectin is useful in treating or preventing COVID-19, either alone or with antibiotics or supplements.

Yet interest in the drug remains, on social media, in some countries, with some doctors and with one politician in particular, Liberal MP Craig Kelly, touting its benefits.

Now a large clinical trial that seemed to show positive results for ivermectin has been withdrawn. So you'd think that would be end of the ivermectin saga.

But research into ivermectin is ongoing. Here's what the evidence says so far and what we can expect next.

Ivermectin was identified as a potential COVID-19 treatment based on experiments in isolated cells and animals. The initial lab studies into ivermectin's effect on the coronavirus involved very high concentrations of the drug. These were many times higher than can be achieved in the body at doses recommended to treat parasites.

As the pandemic progressed, so did ivermectin clinical trials. But when experts who write doctors' prescribing guidelines reviewed the data, they found not enough evidence to back ivermectin to treat or prevent COVID-19. These groups included Australia's National COVID-19 Clinical Evidence Taskforce and the World Health Organization. Instead, they said ivermectin should only be used in clinical trials.

The most robust summary of the evidence for ivermectin in COVID-19, published in June, goes one step further. It found available evidence showed ivermectin didn't work.

This review carefully examined ten higher-quality (randomised-controlled) clinical trials, which involved more than 1,100 patients with COVID-19 being treated with ivermectin.

The researchers excluded many of the low-quality (observational) studies some commentators have used to support ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment.

This was because observational studies cannot control other clinical factors that might influence how people respond to COVID-19, such as other treatments and supportive care.

This major review concluded ivermectin did not reduce death from any cause, the length of stay in hospital or people's ability to clear the virus. The review also said ivermectin was safe but "not a viable option" to treat COVID-19.

In recent months, we heard the seemingly promising results from a large randomised trial, which was posted online as a pre-print and had not been independently verified (peer reviewed).

This study stood out because it found ivermectin led to "a substantial improvement and reduction in mortality rate in ivermectin treated groups" by 90%.

However, the excitement was tempered when the pre-print was withdrawn pending a "formal investigation". Significant questions were asked about the nature of the primary data on which the study was based and whether some of the paper had been plagiarised, among other issues. This called into question the spectacular positive result for ivermectin.

The trial and publication are still under investigation.

But the ivermectin story continues. Researchers at the University of Oxford announced in June they would be starting another ivermectin trial, called PRINCIPLE.

This high-quality trial will involve investigating treatments for people at more risk of serious COVID-19. So far the trial has recruited more than 5,000 volunteers from across the UK. Another part of the trial (into another potential COVID-19 therapy) has already reported results.

This new ivermectin trial is just starting and will compare a three-day treatment of ivermectin in people within the first 14 days of COVID-19 symptoms, or having a positive test, with those having usual care. The trial is expected to report its results in the coming months.

Ivermectin remains a medicine of interest for treating and preventing COVID-19. Yet, key questions remain including the best ivermectin dose, how long ivermectin should be taken and when it should be given to people with COVID based on their stage of infection and illness.

Until then, getting vaccinated will give you the best chance of avoiding severe COVID rather than waiting for a COVID treatment, which may or may not be shown to work.

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Nobody, in fact, is being forced to take it. That's a straw man.

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"The documents leaked from the Kremlin are genuine, according to a variety of independent experts on Kremlin communications and security procedures. The Guardian does not say exactly how it came in possession of the papers-- i.e., who leaked them."

They were left on a bench in Kensington Gardens. By dusting them for fingerprints and matching them with Putin's fingerprints found on the gun that shot John Lennon, then corroborating all of it with the NSA's Ouija Mama Slam Dunk data mining program, they have high confidence that these are the real thing.

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:) :) :O :( (pick your emoji...)

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Pick your explanation for writing this article . . .

1) Under retainer to the Clinton Foundation.

2) TDS.

3) IQ of 77.

4) Being blackmailed by the CIA.*

5) A combination of two or more of the above.

* A dossier containing irrefutable evidence that you killed Seth Rich has been assembled by a variety of independent experts on the communications systems and security procedures used by the DNC and presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, including electronic ledgers documenting your use of credit cards in the proximity of the scene of the crime around the time of the murder. The evidence is solid but something that will be back-burnered if you continue your loyal service to the "agenda".

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You are being humorous, right? Okay, har har har, I'm laughing. Sheeeesh....

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Funny if you find war veterans with their legs blown off to be a barrel of laughs. Know any good Alheimer's jokes? For sure, serial killers make for some good stories to tickle your kids at bedtime 'har har har', right?

I'm a fellow songwriter/producer, William, and I truly respect your artistry. I truly identify with anyone that has as much creativity and talent as you do. I show my respect and honor others as human beings when I'm put in the difficult position of telling them their fly is open or they have a body odor problem. Likewise, I'm honoring you here by telling you that despite your genius in music and other stands you've taken politically, you are completely out to lunch here. Not that I need the camaraderie or any group consensus to arrive at my judgment, I see many other here, who I also have tremendous respect for, likewise think you're genuinely full of sh*t with this article and should consider deleting it, doing some research and soul searching, then buy a new shirt. I find buying new clothes helps relieve the anxiety of my next appearance in public.

When you come back from oped rehab, just act like nothing happened, play your harmonica, and we'll forgive you.

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Your condescension is noted, no matter how you say you respect me musically. "Oped rehab"? "Act like nothing happened"? "Buy a new shirt"??

As I said earlier, I'm waiting for more from the Guardian before I begin congratulating you all.

Naturally, I'm not really laughing at the comment I briefly responded to, nor the first paragraph of this one I am responding to. But I'm not cussing and condescending to people. I've truly expended enough time on David Pear, who has led the chorus of ill humor and condescension. Ray McGovern is about the only one here I actually know personally, and perhaps he will write me personally.

I don't give a flip for anyone's forgiveness, not my peers here, not my adversaries in Fox etc. No investigator would. My daughter forgives me and loves me, no matter that I am not perfect. My good dog Philo

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means more to me than the forgiveness of 99.99999 percent of humans! I search my soul daily, and I hope God sees the good I have done, or tried to do, in this world as more than balancing the sins I have failed to avoid.

I'm frankly stunned by the obvious respect so many here are paying Vladimir Putin. But again, I have said about all I have to say about him until either what I have written about is determined to be true, or until some larger news outlet than thishyear says the Guardian article is a politically motivated lie. Hey, I don't for a moment trust the Irishman Bryan MacDonald, he literally works for the Russian government, at RT.

I would like to see Russia come to the table and help save the Earth and the human species (as well as all the other species), but whether you agree or not, sir, I have concluded that Putin does not give a crap about what the earth looks like now, or what it will look like when he passes, with 10 billion people desperately trying to find the food 7 billion weren't growing. We of course COULD feed the earth if we were not so hell-bent-for-leather about growing more and more meat. This world will die if its dominant species does not become vegetarian grain-and-legume-eaters, abandon the Old Paradigm of using up every bit of non-renewable natural resource for a profit, and above all, voluntarily stop willy-nilly making more babies. China is now the worst offender in the last; several years ago, they decided on one-child families. I cheered. Now they are back to encouraging three-child families.

So thanks but no thanks for your/y'all's forgiveness.

WOLF CRY

Enjoying ourselves while we're destroying ourselves

The medicine man* was right

The earth-rippers chase in the race for what's left**

Every rock, every tree, every fish is their prey, we must fight!

And I-- got to make my wolf cry

I'm-- gonna make my wolf cry-- some day!

The blues is communion

Eating the meager bread, and drinking the bitter wine

Of the blues together-- it'll feed your soul

If freedom is anything more than a footnote in human existence, come and share this bowl

And I'm-- gonna make my wolf cry

I'll strike for the children today and the children to be

I'm-- gonna make my wolf cry

I'll know my song well, I'll start singing, just watch me!

And I'm-- gonna make my wolf cry

I'm-- gonna make my wolf cry

I'm-- gonna make my wolf cry

I'm-- gonna make my wolf cry-- one day!!

from my CD Golden Boy (2017)

*My recently late Lakota comrade Leonard Crow Dog
**Michael Klare, The Race for What's Left: the Global Scramble for the Earth's Last Remaining Resources (2012)
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A Sonnet for Those Still Swimming Upstream

I think it was Camus-- no it was Sartre,

The existentialist philosopher,

Sitting in some small cafe in Montmartre--

That rhymes with Sartre. Well, he was somewhere

In France when he spoke about resistance.

He was a maquis fighter in the war.

Well-qualified he was to take a stance.

Sartre hipped us all to what struggle is for:


When defeat seems inevitable, when

Your odds remote, infinitesimal

To bear out your resistance even then,

He said, is the one course that's rational.


I'll drink to that. Lay on, and ne'er abate

Though vigil, tomb and coffin be my fate.

(Writing time 14 minutes)


**********************************


A Sonnet to Help Me Keep Rolling On

Tick, tock, time crawls at its old petty pace.

My buddy Shakespeare knew just how to say

Exactly what he meant with truth and grace.

How grateful am I that I've seen the day


When that which contains existential worth

Was cherished, saluted, kept for all time

(As long as things are preserved on this Earth).

As long as writers write, and poets rhyme,


I will be of their brotherhood. The craft

Of nestling word with word and phrase with phrase

Will be my consolation till the shaft

Of death curtails my happy mortal days.


Nobody gets out of these blues alive.

But I've still got this rig in overdrive.

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William P. Homans III

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"I don't give a flip for anyone's forgiveness, not my peers here, not my adversaries . . ."

Obviously. Do as you see fit. The rest of us who care about the community of minds who graciously spend time here in an attempt to share information, opinions, criticisms, toward bettering our understanding of the world will continue to marginalize idiocy. Whether you wish to benefit from that or live in the cocoon of your own ignorance is your choice.

Thanks for the heartwarming stories, dog photos, and song lyrics. As I said, you have a lot to offer. You won't be the first to get off track, or the last.

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Your proffered "forgiveness" is condescension, sir, and it is clear that you intended it that way. I don't need the forgiveness of those who believe themselves intellectually superior, individually or collectively. Now you're calling me an idiot to marginalize, and ignorant by my own choice. There's nothing gracious about that.

Why do all of you condescenders and name-callers so clearly prefer Vladimir Putin to the leaders of your own country? Forgive me, lolol, but I just don't get it. Surely it is not because you conclude that Putin is more compassionate, to his own people or others. Can you demonstrate any instance of such motivation in the man, no matter that he did actually join the Paris Accords in 2019, two years after the US had been withdrawn by former President Trump?

I see at least some in Biden. I suppose it is because he has suffered real loss and heartbreak, which Putin has never suffered, to my knowledge (he does have at least two children, daughters, by his ex-wife, plus maybe another by a girlfriend, and barely acknowledges any of them). At least we can talk with and to Biden. I'm trying to imagine Vladimir Putin ever meeting the Russian people in an Open Town Hall. Fehh!

Or do you prefer Putin's politics, or policies, to America's?

Are y'all having fun with this exercise? I'm not, though I continue to do my best to maintain my sense of humor. There are fun things happening around me, fortunately. One of my buddies bet $20 on the Bucks at the half-season mark of the just-concluded NBA season at 25-1, and has collected $500. I never gamble any more, haven't for this century; I have never bet on sports, and nobody plays stud or draw any more, just that bleeping Texas Hold-'Em! Hold only 2 out of 7 cards? Sheeee-itt, what a rip....

I suspect Andy will actually appear at the party me and the Bluesberry Cafe, the small restaurant and night club in which I am the minor partner, dishwasher, and Emcee, are hosting for cinematographers and others for the Hollywood film Morgan Freeman has been producing and starring in here in Clarksdale. It's about human trafficking, you'll inevitably see it, I reckon. I expect he will buy a bottle of #1-grade Bourbon, rather than his usual stupid vodka which I never touch! LOL. The only clear liquor I ever drink is proper non-tax-paid moonshine.

And I have a local gig at another club before the Freeman bunch shows up (it is possible Morgan himself may show up, but I don't expect it), so I will make a decent payday today. I do not get paid for the work I do at the Bluesberry, except for when I play there; it is among the things I am proud to do as part of my contribution to the blues culture of Clarksdale, and of the planet (une couture sans frontieres, as I have often characterized it).

I figure over the 6 1/2 years I've been a partner, I'm in the red about five grand, but I don't even declare such a tiny loss figure in my taxes (if I was paying taxes, which for 2020 I have not, and won't earn enough for 2021 either). In a normal pre-Covid year, I would give a grand a year in tips. If I ever did, I'd end up having to declare this activity every year, and that's a pain in the butt me and my accountant don't need.

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Not only that. Putin wrote it in acrylic on his old typewriter from the days when he was a spy for the KFC.

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There is no question of one thing: we must all maintain our civility and sense of humor in these times when even persons of good will and reasoning abilities can be polarized from each other, and lose sight of the grand sitrep.

I voted for Obama against McCain in '08 because I believed he was significantly less likely to fly off the handle (he was a 40-some-year case of Vietnam-POW PTSD) and blow us off the face of the earth. I voted Green in '12 and '16, but voted for Biden in 2020 for exactly the same reasons that I voted for Obama in '08, no matter for Obama's neocon-dictated adventurism.

Also, Biden is not a liar and a cheat in public and priivate life, over his entire career. That was good enough for me to cast a vote in a state Biden was never going to win. Some people may think that other progressives are being duped. Not so, I say. We The People have some influence, if not a great deal of direct say, in what Biden says and does (and besides, the Supreme Court is now a real problem because of Trump and McConnell). We had zero with Trump, he said and did what he wanted.

As one pundit said (his name was Milley), denying that Trump could have pulled off a coup, Trump's talent was in saying something more outrageous than the previous day in his attempt to retain power. If anybody's been duped, it is the 40-odd percent (we can hope the number is going down, and will resonate in the midterms) who voted for Trump in 2020 and have signalled that they would do it again in 2024 if given the chance.

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Biden is not a liar and a cheat in public and priivate life,

What? He's a child molester, a racist, a liar and corrupt.

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"we must all maintain our civility"

There is nothing civil about repeating war propaganda. That is what Russiagate is.

It takes about 10 years, absent a Pearl Harbor event, to prepare the population that war is necessary, unavoidable and that it is all the enemy's fault. The enemy has to be dehumanized. With Russiagate Putin is the Emanuel Goldstein face of the enemy.

Liberals have had their 4+ years of hate. They wasted everybody's time. They should have been self-contemplating what Trump was a symptom of. Then they should have put forward some real solutions. Instead they gave us Biden--- a corrupt warmongering, neocon, neoliberal

There was a time when liberals were at least for peaceful coexistence. Liberals should be talking about cooperation and compromise with Russia, China and Iran. Instead they have been throwing gasoline on the fire.

It is only going to take a spark to light the powder keg. The war is coming.

So you deserve the brickbats for posting such a stupid malignant warmongering article.

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I shall now ignore you. How disappointing you are, sir. I would cuss you in French, or Italian, but someone here probably speaks those languages and would be outraged. Why don't you go to Russia and tell Putin this? Nobody's trying to dehumanize anybody, except maybe you trying to do it to me. Bah humbug to you, sir.

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you speak ill of mr Pear, showing your bias may be malign. It might be better to pray for

peace. your narrowness wouldnt let a watermelon through, no ad hom intended.

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I have been to Russia many times on missions of peace and reconciliation. That is what liberals used to do. Instead you push this false propaganda of Russiagate which has been thoroughly debunked many times. There is no way to say how contemptible that is in a more civil way. When the killing starts you will have played an irresponsible part of it.

P.S, I am sure Howard Zinn would not condone your article. You should pick up his book and read what he had to say about the myth of the (first) Cold War.

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Beloved friend, don't waste any more time on this bozo. He knows exactly what he is doing and it's disgusting.

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vous n'êtes ni un e'rudit ni un gentleman monsieur

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Ah, mon ami, vous parlez bien et franchement.

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Tu ne me connais pas du tout. Je suis bien sur un gentilhomme, et tout le monde qui me connaissent le savent bien. Et, en addition, ton francais n'est pas bien dit. Je n'ai pas besoin t'entendre de plus. Aies une bonne journee.....

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IMO: a good read re- this topic...

The American Trajectory: Divine or Demonic? July 16, 2018

by David Ray Griffin

David Ray Griffin has done it again. His new book should be read as a prequel to the seminal Bush and Cheney: How They Ruined America and the World.

Supported by extensive research, Griffin thoroughly debunks the myth of an American Empire as a benign, exceptionalist, divinely ordained historical agent. Instead of Manifest Destiny, what reality-based Griffin charters is the 'malign' ways of US foreign policy since the 19th century; a trajectory founded by slavery and genocide of indigenous peoples and then imperially expanded, non-stop.

'Malign' happens to be a term currently very much in vogue across the Beltwaybut always to designate US competitors Russia and China. Griffin consistently challenges Beltway gospel, demonstrating that if the US had not entered WWI, there may have been no WWII. He unmasks the lies surrounding the true story of the Pearl Harbor attacks.

He asks: If the US was really guided by God, how could it 'choose' to bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki, knowing that 'the atomic bombs were not necessary to end the war?'

Griffin also shows how the Cold War was actually conceptualized several years before the 1950 National Security Council paper 68 (NSC-68). He revisits the origins of irrational hatred of Iran; the demonization of Cuba; the lies surrounding the Vietnam debacle; the false flags across Europe via Operation Gladio; the destruction of Yugoslavia; the decades-long evisceration of Iraq; and the ramifications of the Full Spectrum Dominance doctrine.

This sharp, concise history of the American Empire ultimately demonstrates, in Griffin's analysis, the 'fraud' of endorsing self-praising American Exceptionalism. A must read."

Pepe Escobar, Asia Times/Hong Kong

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"This new book by David Ray Griffin is essential reading for anybody who wants to understand the dark side of US Imperialism in its global context."

"Dr. DANIELE GANSER, Director, Swiss Institute for Peace and Energy Research;

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If one reads Howard Zinn, you don't need to read anyone else to be convinced that the USA is the most evil nation on the face of this planet.

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John,

"Absolute power corrupts absolutely."

This we agree upon.

To my mind the question is how each of us in our unique way can work alchemically to turn lead into gold, i.e. to do our part in transforming both the outer situation and inner awareness.

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thanks, John, your words bring fresh air.

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If one reads Howard Zinn, you don't need to read anyone else to be convinced that the USA is the most evil nation on the face of this planet.

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John,

"Absolute power corrupts absolutely."

This we agree upon.

To my mind the question is how each of us in our unique way can work alchemically to turn lead into gold, i.e. to do our part in transforming both the outer situation and inner awareness.

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Howard Zinn was my personal friend and comrade. We dodged tear gas together. His letter of recommendation got me into graduate school (MA, OK State, History) .The first song on my CD "No Paid Holidays" is titled "Blues for Howard." In his last letter to me, he enclosed $1000.00 with the admonition to use the money where I saw fit. I subsidized the second Iraq Veterans Against the War Winter Soldier Investigation, in Austin, (modeled after our (VVAW) original Winter Soldier Investigations, in Detroit and Boston, 1971. I doubt you ever met the man.

My copy of his definitive text, A People's History of the United States, sits before me as I write. You people put on a lot of airs.

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William,

Howard was a mentor during college years. We both participated in a sit-in to protest the Cambodia bombing campaign. I have much respect for this great man.

On another note, I'm wondering exactly what you mean by "you people."

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Zinn would be disappointed in your spreading this lie.

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Thanks, Brenda, for always being your wonderful self.

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What a bunch of name-callers some of the commenters on this article are. That's part of what I was talking about when I said, "you people putting on airs." Whatever, dudes and ma'am. I shall not dignify your comment, ma'am, no matter how you think I may "know what (I'm) doing and it's disgusting."

Please do not presume to declare you knew and loved Howard Zinn (I presented this song to Veterans for Peace back on Christmas Day 2020) any more than myself. Or that I have some secret, disgusting motivations. I play with my cards face up.

Requiescat in pace Howard Zinn.

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Predictably the "Russiagate hoaxers " are crawling out of the woodwork. I find it plausible. Trump is clearly unhinged, the Russians see this clearly, it is in their interest to destablize the rival empire. Why wouldn't they try? On the other hand, the "leak" is unsourced and seems almost too good to be true to us "tds sufferers". Skepticism is appropriate. I rate it slightly more likely than the fabled "pee pee tape".

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The first nine paragraphs are an embarrassment. The author believes Luke Harding is believable???

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Well, Ray, you have always been my comrade. We've been arrested together at the White House If you're embarrassed, your opinion means more to me than that of some of the namecallers who've answered here. But I'm waiting for more shoes to drop before I go congratulating them on their perspicacity. YOU don't trust Mr. Putin, do you? The world needs Russia to sit down at the table and figure out how to save the earth. Putin appears to not give a crap.

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I like Tulsi Gabbard, Bernie Sanders and the Greens, and I do not believe they ever would regurgitate something as stupid as this.

To regurgitate obviously fabricated evidence is not only stupid, but very immoral.

I expect it comes from the warmongers within the s.c. "Democrats", who sold their soul to the devil, or even could be "leaked" by Republicans.

Immoral people do not deserve any votes, so obviously this comment is no support for Trump at all. Actually, the one doing such stupid things in reality supports the warmongering war criminals within Reps and Dems AND makes people feel sorry for the one being accused without evidence.

People could only because of such mainstream media manure vote for the one being falsely accused in pity, which is not right. We should all vote for the policies that we want to see.

Love and World Peace! Peaceful moral people for presidents!

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RT is a Russian state-controlled international television network funded by the federal tax budget of the Russian government. It operates pay television channels directed to audiences outside of Russia, as well as providing Internet content in English, Spanish, French, German, Arabic, and Russian.

Well of course the Irish journalist Bryan MacDonald, who appears to lead the chorus of "Harding is a fake," works for a news outlet funded by the Russian government .

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Now you are doubling down on the embarrassment. You should have taken this article down after being called out by Ray McGovern.

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Ray's my friend. We've been arrested together. I'll listen to most anything he says, whether or not we agree. I'm waiting for him to tell us whether he trusts Vladimir Putin. You, I won't listen to, no matter that you are apparently a fellow member of Veterans for Peace. You're a highfalutin name-caller, and you lost it with me when you yammered on about "shitlibs."

And I will wait for The Guardian to identify sources. BTW, I don't care what Bryan MacDonald says about retractions or apologies; working for RT, he works for the Russian government, just as surely as Chinese "journalists" work for the Chinese Communist Party.

As I have stated earlier, it is up to the leaders of Russia (and China, etc.) to sit down with the leaders of all the nations of the world and negotiate the rescuing of Mother Earth from man-made climate change, expenditure at greater-than-sustained-yield levels of non-renewable natural resources, uncaring pollution, and (I don't know that it is even possible, given China's recent move; they have decided that even 2-child families are too restrictive, they want their couples to make 3 apiece now) globally unrestrained population growth.

There are something over 7 billion people on the Earth, and we are not successfully feeding them/ourselves. The Limits to Growth: The Club of Rome Report, from 1970, the year I returned from Vietnam, predicted that global population would reach 10-11 billion people before global collapse occurs. Given that the most populous nations of the world (Russia, China, India) specifically have urged their populations to have more children, The Limits to Growth's prediction is right in line for said collapse to occur not later than 2080. We are already in the predicted overshoot, though measures could still be taken to moderate the worst effects.

We are emptying the oceans of fish. Weyerhaeuser Corporation ("The Tree-Planting Company") has destroyed the Borneo rain forest, clear-cut the hills of Oklahoma and Arkansas (in which I lived and worked for years), and other US regions, and replaced them with a nearly fiber-less but fast-growing monocrop tree (the loblolly pine), and is probably destroying as much of the Amazon that its poor farmers do not raze to raise cattle on.

And in doing so, removing the greatest carbon dioxide absorbers and oxygen producers on the planet. Our capitalists (as well as Russia's, China's*, and others) don't give a flip whether people are still breathing air and drinking water by the end of the century!

That's the battle I'm fighting. That woman Brenda who called me a bozo and said she "knew exactly what (I) was doing, and it's disgusting," has no freakin idea who or what kind of activist I am.

I proudly bear a scar on my left shin from 1972 which I received when I was one of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War who bounced the National Socialist White People's Party (the American Nazi Party renamed after the death of founder George Lincoln Rockwell) from Flamingo Park in Miami at the Republican National Convention (The story is told in a song titled "WBCN," from my 2017 CD Golden Boy).

In my M.A. thesis, most ironically titled North American Fascism: Transmission of the Virus, the first published academic work investigating the Oklahoma City Bombing (Oklahoma State university Department of History, 2000), I note that the Committee to Re-Elect the President (CREEP) paid the Nazis over $12,000 to harass and discredit the anti-Vietnam-War Movement. Nixon was scared to death of us Vietnam vets, which is why the Gainesville Eight Conspiracy Trial, the last great political show trial of the Vietnam Era, was held.

My father, two uncles and an aunt fought the Nazis in World War Two. My father is an immortal member of the Royal Naval American Reserve, 23 young men who dropped what they were doing, crossed the ocean and joined the Royal Navy (risking 5 years and a $25,000 fine for joining another nation's armed services) before America would deign to join the war. You can go to The Painted Hall, in Greenwich, at the Royal Naval Academy, to see the memorial.

My dad, at 20, was the youngest man to do so (and after two years plus of convoy escort, returned to the finally-at-war US, joined our Navy, and, now a Lieutenant, fought at the Anzio Beachhead). One of the RNAR was the first American combat casualty of WWII. I am my father's son, and effing Nazis and their ilk had better stay out of the Mississippi Delta! There are personnel and ordnance here to defeat them.

That's it for today, y'all. Please email me, or FB-message me, Ray. I should like to have your private thoughts on the phenomenon, no matter for who has written about it in The Guardian. I'm not the least bit embarrassed by doing my best.

God Bless Us All, Every One,

William P. Homans III, aka Watermelon Slim



*Capitalism is alive and well in Communist China. One Chinese capitalist is so rich that he had a 3/4-size replica of Mount Rushmore carved out of a piece of his property.

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Your howling at the moon about Russia and China does not advance the cause of peace. Quite the opposite it is propaganda that advances the cause of U.S. warmongers.

Liberals used to be for dialogue, especially between nuclear powers. That is not going to happen by starting with insults. We can't "fix" the other side until we fix ourselves first

And we have a lot of fixing to do of ourselves. As citizens of the U.S. and peace activists, then that is where our energy should be focused.

"Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."

P.S. A "shitlib" is someone who claims to be a liberal but whose words and actions contradict it. A hypocrite. A sellout.

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Damn computer just deleted 2 hours worth of response to your repeated attack. Hence, I will not spend another two hours redoing it, but merely remind you that it has been you, sir, who started in attack mode from your first post. It was you who, when I suggested that civility and good humor were necessary among us thinking people of good will, specifically rejected it.

I have been called a liar, and a spreader of lies, and in this most recent high-horse diatribe (even including Scripture from the KJV), you have called me a propagandist. I've been in antiwar and environmental activism for 50 years this year, and an investigator on my own and as assistant to Dr. Richard Hayes Phillips, PhD., since the 1970s, and no one-- no one, not even individuals or organizations governmental and private which were the subjects of my/our investigations-- has ever thrown such insulting accusations in my face.

You have led the chorus, sir. I reject any and all of the personal, spurious and unwarranted rhetoric that you and others have seen fit to use, and I'm talking to all here who have hurled ridicule and outright insults. I thank God I am not a liberal, but a world survivalist, so your "shitlib" insult just rolls off me like duck off a water's back. Did you make the term up? I've never heard it in all these years, "libtard" and "libturd" are more common. I must say that when I see people use the slang "lib", in any context, it is always by people who hate anything to the left of arch-conservatism.

I will be playing at the online VFP Convention August 14, at 8:30 PM. If you're a member, you'll probably get a Zoom link. I will be ending the concert, and besides several songs, I will be playing Taps. To lead mourning is a crucial part of my mission, and of my life as a veteran, and a VVAW Life Member. I play The Last Post (Taps) at every show I do. As I have said, and found agreement even among arch-conservatives, one thing we can all agree on is the honoring and mourning of the fallen.

Here, in the aggregate, is encapsulated my life struggle. I declare that it is proof against any and all of your collective insults, particularly yours, sir. Hypocrite? Propagandist? I should smile. The song, Winners of Us All, will be the title of the full-length videobiography being produced in Canada. I did indeed write it in the driver's seat of my dumpster rig, in Oklahoma in 2001.

The two elegies? The first I wrote on the occasion of the 100th Anniversary of the Armistice. I blew Taps at the World War One Memorial in DC on that day, and presented as part of the VFP book, Letters to the Wall. The second I recited at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Chicago in 2017, the 50th Anniversary year of the founding of Vietnam Veterans Against the War. I have published them at OpEdNews, but you may not have seen them, and to show something crucial twice to people does not a propagandist make. They are in Shakespearean blank verse (iambic pentameter), because that meter is well suited to expressing our most important thoughts.

Winners of Us All

V.1

Well, I thought I was singing for a whole bunch of people

Millions of folks living far below the line

They don't drive new pick-ups, can't afford CDs,

They don't matter to folks who smell like Calvin Klein

V.2

They're wearing torn tank-tops and greasy overalls

They're pushing crushed tin cans down a black conveyor belt

They're living with wives and kids on far too little money

Doing the best they can with the deuces they've been dealt

V.3

And this ol'working sweat keeps on building up

And a few of us profit, but most of us lose

And day after day they scratch out a living

And their unheard melody sounds something like the blues

Something like the blues

V.4

Now there's a woman I've loved when I wasn't too frustrated

With busting my ass just trying to survive

And a nine-year-old cutie that I'd give my life for

And I'll spend all my strength just to help them stay alive

V.5

And I'm sitting here in this dirty old dumpster rig writing

Knowing the chance you'll ever hear me is small

But I'm doing it for everybody who don't draw that bottom line,

And I'm hoping one day to make winners of us all

Winners of us all (5x)

V.6

All you three-piece suits, hear this old driver's song

If you think I ain't worth it, you're a thousand miles wrong

'Cause I'm still fierce and free, and I'll fight toe to toe

For a piece of your comfort, though it's coming real slow...

Ending

And I hope that you'll come down and hear me real soon,

Where I'm singing this working man's tune (repeat 2x).

********************************

For those here on this wall memorialized,

fifty-eight thousand three hundred twenty

Of our one-time brothers in arms, we stand

(Eight women-- women die more often now

In combat), your comrades yet unfallen,

To mourn, and reflect on your sacrifice.

A very few may have left some record

Of their misgivings before signing up,

And going overseas, to meet their fate.

But in that day and age, boys and young men

Still lived in naivete unknown today.

We joined, and volunteered for the war zone

In patriotic fervor (though for some,

There just weren't any good alternatives).

Some, like myself, for decades fought the guilt

We felt for our not having joined you here.

You were not guilty, though you may have felt

You were no longer innocent. You did

What you were ordered to. You served and died

In honor, none can ever tarnish that.

But if a spirit world exists, I hope

That you, our comrades, see us gathered here

Determined all to bear witness, and work

To keep your sons and daughters from the end

That found you in Phu Bai, Dak To, Tay Ninh,

Or any of a thousand other villes.

I visited the place where this great wall--

This necessary wall, this wall of peace

(For peace is all they have now, so rich they

Who have no thing but eternal repose)--

Stretches across the years of that conflict.

In two thousand eighteen, the centennial

Of that great laying down of arms that marked

The end of the War to End All Wars, we

Were not permitted to approach the wall

Where our sons and our fathers are engraved.

We offer our regrets, fallen brothers,

For such misdirected authority.

Forever-- for the duration-- I vow

I will remember you all. Join me now!

***************************

We are Vietnam veterans. We served,

Where these, our brothers, all the honored dead,

Met their end. We, the dead inoculi,

Honor the warriors, but not the wars.

Some ask us, "what do your fatigues stand for?

Vietnam Veterans Against the War?

What war? That war's been over four decades."

Well, sorry, that war is still going on.

In each and every country that we bomb,

Or sell the weapons to so they can bomb,

In every nation that endures our threats,

It's every conflict that we connive in,

The cruel neocon geopolitics,

And now with open hand we do this stuff.

American diplomacy is moot!

There's Twitter-- why, who needs ambassadors?

It's all "The War." We cannot hope to choose.

Our own reflection, own experience,

Our own eternal solidarity

With these our brothers here memorialized,

Compels our resistance to all these wars

That are all but one American war.

The more years pass in this millennium,

The more the information tidal wave

Destroys context, makes normal human needs

And wants and most emotions meaningless.

Thought and reflection are devalued; time

Compressed. It is the end of history.

My people have forgotten how to mourn.

We were not permitted to see the dead

As they returned in flag-draped coffins. No.

The Defense Secretary even used

A facsimile of his signature

On notices of fallen soldiers' deaths.

We have not forgotten. We never shall.

We may not stop The War. But it must see

Us elders standing here, bearing witness.

For us, no dulce et decorum est

Pro patria mori. That lie won't fly.

Oh, brothers and sisters united here

We your as yet unfallen comrades pray

That you should lie in peace. And that those arms

You bore in good faith, and to which succumbed,

Shall fall silent. Let our children no more

Be pulled into wars that do not defend

Their own homeland, and fight, and die in vain.


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No one ever called me a liar or a propagandist. While I was writing my thesis, I obtained contact info for William Smith (whose name was Harold Covington when he took part in the deadly 1975 fight between the Nazis and various Communists in North Carolina-- Greensboro I think) at that time the president of National Socialist White People's Party. I identified myself as a graduate student writing a thesis (though not as the patriot son of my patriot father), and asked a bunch of questions of him, mincing no words. Less than a week later, I got a response: Smith sent me a cute (by some twisted standards) postcard, which depicted Der Fuehrer with his hand on the head of a young girl, an SS man looking on. His message, instead of attack, was this: "We Nazis are not lab rats to be studied."

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Are you ok?

This Russiagate conspiracy theory has been so thoroughly debunked that your dozens of comments did not get a single thumbs up. You even managed to get called out in a rare comment by "your good friend" Ray McGovern.

You are out of tune. Veterans for Peace, Code Pink, anti-war.com, and true liberals and progressives ain't buying war propaganda.

Turn Out the Lights, Russiagate Is Over by Ray McGovern, antiwar.com

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