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Interview Transcript: Joel Bakan-- Author/Producer The Corporation-- on How Corporations are Psychopathic, part 1

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R.K.: And welcome to the Rob Kall Bottom Up Radio show WNJC 1360 AM out of Washington Township, New Jersey reaching Metro Philly and South Jersey. Online at iTunes. Look for my name, Rob Kall, K-AL-L or go to opednews.com/podcasts and you can find hundreds of interviews there.

My guest tonight is Joel Bakan. He is a professor at the University of British Columbia, Faculty of Law. He studied at Oxford University as a Rhodes Scholar and served as Law Clerk in 1985 for Chief Justice Brian Dickson of the Supreme Court of Canada. He wrote the book and created the movie, The Corporation:The Pathological Pursuit of Profit and Power, one of the most successful documentaries ever produced. The most successful one ever produced in Canada. And more recently he is the author of, Childhood Under Siege: How Big Business Targets Children. Welcome to the show.

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J.B.: Thanks for having me on, Rob.

R.K.: It's a pleasure. You have done such an important work. I know it's been years ago, but can you" the book and "The Corporation" movie, it seems that both the books you've done and the movie are very related. Can you describe the message of both of them, briefly and we can jump into some newer stuff?

J.B.: Well, I suppose the message is that we have created an institution that is, if you were to analogize it to a human being, would be psychopathic in terms of its character and then we've given it increasing amounts of power to the point where arguably it now plays a substantial role in governing society and in governing those who allegedly govern us.

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So, it's really an attempt to reveal that; to challenge notions that corporations are benevolent or socially responsible at their core and to just suggest that we the people need to reestablish, or establish control of these institutions so that they can't sort of willy-nilly trod upon public goods.

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Rob Kall is an award winning journalist, inventor, software architect, connector and visionary. His work and his writing have been featured in the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, CNN, ABC, the HuffingtonPost, Success, Discover and other media. He's given talks and workshops to Fortune 500 execs and national medical and psychological organizations, and pioneered first-of-their-kind conferences in Positive Psychology, Brain Science and Story. He hosts some of the world's smartest, most interesting and powerful people on his Bottom Up Radio Show, and founded and publishes one of the top Google- ranked progressive news and opinion sites, OpEdNews.com

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Rob Kall has spent his adult life as an awakener and empowerer-- first in the field of biofeedback, inventing products, developing software and a music recording label, MuPsych, within the company he founded in 1978-- Futurehealth, and founding, organizing and running 3 conferences: Winter Brain, on Neurofeedback and consciousness, Optimal Functioning and Positive Psychology (a pioneer in the field of Positive Psychology, first presenting workshops on it in 1985) and Storycon Summit Meeting on the Art Science and Application of Story-- each the first of their kind.  Then, when he found the process of raising people's consciousness and empowering them to take more control of their lives  one person at a time was too slow, he founded Opednews.com-- which has been the top search result on Google for the terms liberal news and progressive opinion for several years. Rob began his Bottom-up Radio show, broadcast on WNJC 1360 AM to Metro Philly, also available on iTunes, covering the transition of our culture, business and world from predominantly Top-down (hierarchical, centralized, authoritarian, patriarchal, big)  to bottom-up (egalitarian, local, interdependent, grassroots, archetypal feminine and small.) Recent long-term projects include a book, Bottom-up-- The Connection Revolution, debillionairizing the planet and the Psychopathy Defense and Optimization Project. 

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