K.S.: That mob machine, yeah, you're right about that. But let me ask you a question. Suppose you say that the billionaires should be outlawed. I think that was the phrase you used. Just how could you accomplish this?
R.K.: Well, I wrote an article. There are a lot of different things that have to be done and I talked to Noam Chomsky about it a couple of weeks ago. One thing is you get rid of dynasties and you make it so that a billionaire cannot pass on billions to any of his descendants, or his or her descendants, or children.
K.S.: Just who is going to do this? Who is going to make this possible?
R.K.: Yeah. Well that's part of the challenge, but you know, if you don't put the ideas out there, nothing happens.
K.S.: If you do have...
R.K.: Well, wait a second now, I didn't give you that incredulous sounding voice when you talked about secession. It's a wild, crazy idea, but I like it. But it's" I could go" who is going to do this, you know?
K.S.: Well that's easy. The people can do that. People can get together on a small scale basis and accomplish secession and continue to govern by secession. But to take billionaires down, you're going to have to create a big government that has control over the entire economy that can decide who is going to be a billionaire and who isn't. In the first place. I wouldn't want to live under a government with so much power, but in the second place, that kind of government is not going to happen in the United States. Tell me that's not the way we run things in this country so far. I mean, in the way that it is.
R.K.: Absolutely true. You're right, it's not the way we do it now.
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