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Accompanying vs Organizing as a Mode of Activism and Change: Transcript of an interview with Staughton Lynd

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So he gave his radio broadcast to the whole country the next day.  There were thousands of people in the square near the cathedral, as well as people on their radios all over the country.  Chencho, when interviewed for this collection of oral histories said, "You know, people are baptized in different ways.  There's baptism by water, but there's also baptism by the people.  And that's what happened to Oscar Romero that day."  And of course, it led right on to his assassination. 

 

The lady from Nicaragua interviewed the soldier who wrote to Romero (the member of the National Guard) and said, "You know, MonseÃ...ˆor, maybe you can help us.  But we're being told to go out and shoot up peasant homes, and we don't know what they did, and we don't want to be doing this!  They're just like us."  And that was what led Romero, the day before he was killed, to give a radio address, widely heard as were all his radio talks, and saying "I'm talking to my brothers in the National Guard.  I beg you, I plead with you, I order you in the name of God, stop this killing!"  And so, Romero was assassinated the next day.

 

Rob Kall:   Now, Liberation Theology: many of the Catholic Priests who were part of that movement were excommunicated.  They lost their Priesthood.  I got to know one a little bit, Matthew Fox.

 

Staughton Lynd:   And Alice and I got to know a Franciscan Priest in Managua, Nicaragua.  We lived in a neighborhood on three of our visits where the nearby church was Saint Mary's of the Angels, and there was a cast iron representation of Saint Francis and the Wolf just outside the church.  You went in, and all around were murals of the popular history of Central America from the 16th Century: Bartolomà ©o de las Casas to the present moment. 

 

The Mass was the so-called Misa Compesina, "The Peasant's Mass," and the part I remember most clearly is a portion of the liturgy which says, "Jesus, we know you.  We stood in line with you at the end of the week to collect our wages, and you were dirty and sweaty just as we were.  And then when we got paid, we went across the street and had a sno-cone together."  There was indeed a popular consciousness. 

 

Then, after we came home, here comes a letter from Ore-l(sp?), the Priest at that church, saying that he had experienced certain deaths, and he wanted to tell us about them; that his mother had died, his adopted son had been killed in a car accident, and, just as you said, he had his pulpit taken away from him by the Franciscan Order.  So yes, there has been a worldwide repression, and the present Pope is one if it's leaders. 

 

Rob Kall:   Yeah.  Romero has some wonderful things to say.  I'm reading from your book, and you quote him as saying, "When the church demands a more just society, wealth better shared, more respect for human rights, the church is not meddling in Politics, or becoming Marxists and Communists, the Church is telling people, 'Only those will be saved who can use the things of earth with the heart of God.'"

 

Staughton Lynd:   (laughs)

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