Rob: Let me just do this a little bit more now you say for example that, "Equatorial Guinea, one of the most brutal and crooked dictatorships in the world, doesn't give to the Clinton Foundation in New York because it's too embarrassing, they give the money anonymously in Canada and that buys them political protection in the United States." What kind of protection?
KS: Well look, this is one of the worst dictatorships ever, I shouldn't say ever, I mean that's a hard thing to say, but currently it's one of the worst. if you look at human rights reports by human rights watcher Amnesty International, or if you look at press accounts or every year, I haven't seen it for a while but Parade Magazine that's still inserted into Sunday newspapers I think, comes out with a list of the worst dictators and they're always like on the top ten list, or typically on the top ten list. I've been there so I know what I'm talking about. And American Oil companies have invested there and have made this rogue regime very rich and there's no dispute, I've written about this as well for Harper's and many other publications, that the ruling family has gotten obscenely wealthy while the majority, the great majority, like 95 or 98 % of the population is miserable. It's really disgusting. I've been there and it's, you know you see these, a few mansions and then most people living without plumbing or you know, shanty towns the sort of classic pictures you see, you know of kids with distended bellies. But the Bush administration they discovered, this was a backwater until I think it was the mid 2000's when Bush was president and they discovered Exon discovered a ton of oil and started pumping oil and the Bush administration covered up for them too, there's a pretty famous picture if you follow this sort of thing of the president, the dictator of the country, you know with Condoleezza Rice. Which, you know, he shows his citizen's back home, see they love me in Washington. That's valuable to the dictator. So you know like Clinton, I'm sorry the Bush administration, George W Bush and then the Obama administration will periodically say, oh you, you know they wag a finger and say this is terrible, but they allow that government. Instead of just saying look, this is a rotten government that we shouldn't be dealing with and American Oil companies should probably not even be pumping oil there no matter how much money they're making. And no matter, in theory, how that's good for the United States because it's the reason we justify being in bed with dictatorships. You know, you , instead of just saying, look this is an outlaw regime that we should have no part of, they wag their finger and you know when the president, the quote president wins re-election with 99 or 98 percent of the vote, you know he's so stupid. You know if he just won with 94 percent it would look better, but his American lobbyist you know he won't even listen to them. Like Mr. President please you're paying us a lot of money listen to our advice just take 94 or 93 percent. But he always wins with like 99.3 or 98.9 or whatever. So you know and then the state department will say, oh, that's terrible we really disapprove, and then the next day, you know because it's not like a country that anybody pays attention to, so they can get away with apologizing for this rogue regime. And you know basically what helps the Bush and Clinton, I'm sorry Obama administrations are in bed with this regime, they just pretend otherwise so.
Rob: So are you saying that Hillary used her position as Secretary of State?
KS: Well she certainly did in some cases, with Equatorial Guinea she just ignored it. But it some cases she was more active, like one of the shocking things, and this I got cut from my Harper's piece but I post it on Byline today, I did a short story at Byline you can find that includes this information. There are a couple of things I would point to. Bill Clinton gets paid enormous amounts of money to give speeches around the world, okay? You know he will give like a 30 minute speech and make a few hundred grand. I mean I'm not sure where that money's going? Into his pocket or who knows where that money ends up going. But if you match up Hillary's travel records as Secretary of State with Bill Clinton's speaking appearances you find stunning coincidences, stunning coincidences. So for example, in 2010, Bill Clinton was with Frank Giustra his Canadian businessman who he made very rich. Again I don't want to go into all the details here, but your listeners can by reading my articles see how he made him rich. They were in Colombia, in South America, where there's a right-wing dictatorship, oh actually it's not a dictatorship, technically they have elections, but it's like different factions of the ruling party win. And where there's a history of death squads and narco trafficking and the US has apologized because they're big investors there, US investors. And one of them is Clinton's good friend Frank Giustra. So in June of 2010 they're down there together, they're inaugurating Clinton Foundation activities, and Giustra has big investments in Colombia, and Bill is getting paid for his speaking appearance. And low and behold the next day, I think it was June 2010, Hillary turns up in Colombia, and she gives a joint press conference with the, you know, president of Colombia. And you know despite the atrocities committed by this guy, Alvaro Uribe, and the horrible human rights record, Hillary goes down there and shills for the Colombian government, when her husband is down there. And then she has the nerve to write in her memoir, which I really love it's called "Hard Choices" yeah, very hard choices to stay with your husband or not? Or to like forgive human rights abuses because your husband's friend has investments in Colombia? I'm just suspecting that might be one of the reason I can't say that flat out, who knows what was going on in Hillary's head. But in her own memoir she says, this was a happy coincidence where my husband and I were in the same place at the same time. Really was it a happy coincidence or was it, let me use government travel, to fly to places where my husband's going to be or around the same time, and sometimes literally at the same time, like in this instance. And our activities INAUDIBLE 32:10
Rob: How many examples of this have you been able to identify?
KS: You'd have to, there are a few others, I say in my piece, if you're the Benghazi committee or if you're the Justice Department or the Internal Revenue Service, you have the power of subpoena, I don't. I don't have all day, I don't have all week even because I'm writing a lot to support myself and my family, I say in the piece, look you government agencies and congress have subpoena power, get the records and piece it together. But there are other examples, that is the most egregious where you just go, oh was it really a coincidence. I mean please. But I would, basically my article is an attempt to, and this sounds like delusions of grandeur but as a journalist, I feel like you know, you write in hopes of causing action and you hope that other people, you know because there have been other stories about the Clinton Foundation and the outrageous conduct of the Clinton family, you hope that people who actually have power in the government will say, enough is enough let's clean this up. Let's at least, let's subpoena the relevant records and let's see if they broke the law. And that's what my modest hope is for my story is that it focuses attention on people who actually have the authority to pull the records and maybe, I'm wrong. I would have though the Clinton Foundation would have denied it and Sidney Blumenthal. And you know, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I think my story's speak for themselves.
Rob: Okay so he just accidentally got disconnected. This is where I keep talking while he hopefully calls back in. So what he writes in the article that is really kind of astonishing is that it's not tens of millions or hundreds of millions of dollars that come in it's over a billion dollars that has come in to the Clinton Foundation. They have some projects that channel money for medications and for healthcare that it's over a billion dollars. So, we'll ask about that. He also writes in the article about how this Canadian organization says it "has never received funding from any members of any royal family or any countries around the world, it doesn't take money from foreign governments." But he explains, or reports, that it has been explained to him is that in countries like Equatorial Guinea and Kuwait, basically the government and private money gets switched around, it's very loose and so it's easy for government money to go through private hands and then it can end up in this foundation and the Canadian organization could be telling the truth and yet the government is going to get the benefits of it.
Rob: So your article refers to the fact that the Clinton Foundation has received over a billion dollars, you have any idea how much it's received, is there any record of that?
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