Rob: And I'm talking to Ken Silverstein who is an investigative journalist, contributing editor for Vice Magazine and he does the column Washington Babylon for the New York Observer. He's got a new article out called, published by Harper's about the Clintons and their laundering money and enriching family friends. So tell us a little bit about this other article that you did please.
KS: Well Sidney Blumenthal, I expect some of your listeners may be familiar with him, he is a former journalist, actually, before he decided to go to the dark side. He used to write for the Washington Post, the New Yorker, he actually got fired from the New Yorker quietly because he was so closed to the Clintons. That's actually the original reason he was hired, was because he was close to the Clintons, and then they realize he was so close to the Clintons that nothing he said could be trusted. There's a famous quote, I think it's, Mary McCarthy said it about Lillian Hellman that every word she writes, including is and the, is a lie. And that's what I would say about Sidney Blumenthal. He is a totally immoral unethical liar who will say anything and do anything for the Clinton family. He also would not comment for my story, despite my telling him I'm going to write that you're criminally, your conduct in criminal. He actually could be indicted, he's been testifying before the, under duress, before the Benghazi committee. He's basically, he's been a hatchet man for the family since the first Clinton administration which he served in if that's the right term. He's a smear artist, he will put out any lie, for any enemy of the Clinton family, he will say anything and do anything, even if he knows it is completely false, because he doesn't understand truth or lies, he understands political victory and he sponsors the Clintons. He's served them very faithfully, again if that's the right word.
Rob: What's the article about? You said a bunch of horrible stuff about this guy, what's the article about?
KS: You're right, you're right, and again let me just urge your listeners to go to the story at the New York Observer, but it's about his history and lying. One claim in particular, there was a Wall Street Journal editorial writer named John Fund, and Blumenthal was accused of wife beating. I say in my story that was a false accusation. But he became obsessed with finding out who had spread this rumor about him which is really ironic because that's his profession to spread lies and rumors and falsehood. So he went out and he determined somehow, I have no idea how, that it was John Fund, who was a big, you know he was a Wall Street Journal Editorial writer so he was an enemy of the Clintons. Somehow Blumenthal became obsessed with, oh it was John Fund. So he went out and he obtained some accurate information, which is that John Fund had two affairs with a mother and then her daughter, and it's really unattractive behavior, and when I talk to Fund he said yeah, I screwed up and I opened myself up to black mail. He didn't apologize for his behavior, he explained it and he took responsibility for it. But Blumenthal went out and spread, like made the story, you know it doesn't make Fund look good but he spread information that was even worse. He went out to, the daughter that Fund had an affair with is mentally unstable, even her mother acknowledged that, the woman Morgan Pillsbury, the daughter, acknowledged, I mean she sued Fund and then she dropped the lawsuit. She acknowledged she was a pathological liar and mentally unhinged and that, she said in a sworn deposition before dropping the lawsuit, she was asked how many lies have you told in the past, and she said, I'm paraphrasing but she said, too many to count. So you know she talked about how Fund had beaten her up, and had this sorted affair. You know the truth is I don't know, you know Fund denies that he beat her up. He was investigated by the district attorney's office in New York and they never pressed charges. I report all this in my story. I'm like, I don't know whether he beat her up or not. Morgan Pillsbury's mother, said she thinks, basically she said he thinks he did that she saw her daughter five minutes after Fund had been with her, and she was battered and you know there were photographs of her daughter. Look I don't know, I say in my story I don't know whether this is true or false.
Rob: What's the mother's name?
KS: As we talk I'm going to have to find that because I honestly, I wrote this story a month ago and I've written a lot since then so let me find that for you.
Rob: I ask because I think I've had contact with her.
KS: Well it's, I'll find it. Let me just point out one thing though as we're talking. Blumenthal, according to the mother, he offered her daughter, to get her a free lawyer to bring a case against John Fund. And then he reneged on the offer. So, basically, what I accuse him of, and which he hasn't commented on, is taking advantage of a mentally unstable women and putting her into the public realm and encouraging her to bring a lawsuit that would he thought destroy a political enemy of his. So I mean how much lower can you sink then that? I mean honestly to take advantage of a young unstable woman for your own political purposes, whatever the purpose was. Let me just, I feel like I have to say this. You know I really detest the Clintons, but I have equal scorn and condemn for the Bush family, so I'm not taking political sides here. I'm not voting for anyone for president. They're all, the system is so broken. It's beyond taking lesser of two evils. The choices are so bad that I'm not going to dignify any of them by voting for them. But the woman, I found her name, it's Melinda Pillsbury Foster, who is a former vice chairwoman, or chairman of the libertarian party of Southern California. And she's president of the Arthur C Pillsbury Foundation. She's the woman who had an affair with John Fund in the late 1970's and then later her daughter...
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