Rob Kall: Really?
Paul Craig Roberts: Yeah.
And of course the" the point is that the newspapers wouldn't buy them, even
though" you know, I think Creative Syndicate would carry them. But I think"
that most newspapers are now part of these huge conglomerates. And" and the
policy that comes down is you don't rock any boat. But you can't possibly make
the Government upset because the value of the company is the broadcast
licenses, and they will yank them or not renew them. And we can't" we can't
make our corporate holders mad-- they'll fire
us all! And we can't make the advertisers mad or they're pull the adverts. So
we can't say anything that will upset the power structure. And that's what's
happened to the Press. And that's why we have the internet. I mean that's why
your site has the following it has, and mine has what it has. And Counterpunch,
and the other sites, they have, because they now perform the role that was once
performed by the print and TV media, which no longer does it"
Rob Kall: [interjecting]
Since you" since you started, can I" can I get you to give a plug for OpEdNews.
What do you
think about OpEdNews?
Paul Craig Roberts: Well, I think that it's a remarkable a site that's associated with liberal, progressive" ----permits a wide range of opinion. And therefore I think that it does what the media's supposed to do. It's supposed to offer a forum for all views. And it's supposed to report what's actually going on. And to investigate what's actually going on. And it's not supposed to say, "oh no, we can't talk about that', for example. Or we can't talk about Bush lying about "weapons of mass destruction'. "Oh no, we don't do that!' Or, "we can't talk about 9/11!'. Or "we can't" 'or" Those kinds of things" destroy the ability of people to know if things can't be talked about. So I think that your site is good and is to be commended because it introduces a wide range of views. It's not an ideologically determined site. And it's not determined by a corporate interest. So, more power to you!
Rob Kall: Well,
let's" let's get a little ideological! Or maybe" maybe not! The Presidential
Election is looming. What's your take on the two primary candidates? And the
third party candidates? And the election in general? And the two conventions?
The claims" Whatever you want to go with.
Paul Craig Roberts: Well,
I think that's a good question. A good thing to discuss. Of course there was a"
a democratic primary. Umh and Obama, his problem is that" you know, in my
lifetime no President has ever been elected with as much expectation as Obama--
not even Reagan came close. If you remember the, the inauguration of
Obama, the mall was full of people that in no such presence had ever come out
for an inauguration. It was massive. They had those massive screens, for people
miles away to see. And the support he had was dramatic. He could have come in
and saved the country! He could have said, "look, we know that the Bush
administration, they have committed all kinds of crimes according to our own
statutory laws on the books, this is known'. "They've committed war crimes.
We're going to arrest them and put them on trial. We're going to hold them
accountable'. "We're going to do to them exactly what we did to the Germans
after World War II. All the" mechanisms are
in place. It's our responsibility. It's our obligation'. Instead he said "oh no"
we're giving them all a pass!' "So what, they tortured! And so what!' "So they"
so they lied about weapons of mass destruction, so what! I mean" in fact I
think I'll restart the war in Afghanistan!' He didn't do anything about the
Police state measures. He actually made them worse by announcing that he
could kill Americans without due process. Not merely imprison them without due
process, which was as far as Bush went, but he could kill them as well.
So the whole thing" you're" he just completely deserted
the people who had voted for him. So now the question is, what are they going
to do? I don't think they're going to vote for him. Romney is not an Obama
supporter, who they're going to vote? Now look at Romney and Ryan. These people"
I call it the "party of hate'! They have an extreme mean streak. They" they
really want to take away everything from everybody, except from them. And, you
know, they wanted to make Social Security and Medicare profit centers for capitalism. They don't" in other words, it's not suppose to help the
public. It's supposed to make profits for a handful of corporations.
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