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Fascism & Authoritarianism-- Horror Stories in American History: Matthew MacWilliams

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Matthew MacWilliams is an expert on Authoritarianism

and Author of On Fascism; 12 Lessons for American History

He is a long-time political professional, establishing MacWilliams Sanders Communications a campaign- and issues-driven media strategy firm more than 20 years ago.
He is also working with other countries, internationally, to identify authoritarianism and fascism and fight it.


His website is .matthewmacwilliams.com/


What's your goal for this book?

Define Authoritarianism? Who is an authoritarian? What are the population statistics?


18% hard core authoritarian and 23% authoritarian susceptible with encouragement


Differences and similarities between fascism and authoritarianism.


Four questions to identify Authoritarians
They choose authority, obedience, uniformity, respect for elders,

Parenting questions.
Are some groups inferior to others?


Fear activates authoritarianism.
Eric Fromm wrote Escape From Freedom




In a sense, this book, exploring the history of authoritarian and fascist actions, policies and events in the US shows us how dangerous Authoritarian Fascism can be and has been. And the fact is, those examples of what the US has done are monstrosities.



Examples of fascism and authoritarianism in history:


Lincoln vs. Douglas are blacks equal?

Toxic media: Father Coughlin

Hurting/ attacking the media: Sedition act, created by Federalists, Amy Coney Barrett is a Federalist



Violating the constitution: Stonewall Jackson, the Cherokee treaty

Trump hung Jackson's painting in the Oval Office.


The United States of Lyncherdom; Using Fear and violence to control and subordinate others. "Lynching is state-sponsored terrorism."
Former slave Ida B. Wells documented lynchings. There were over 4000 between 1880 and 1968. Still no legislation against it.



Fear As a Path to Power. Progressive fascists-- the Palmer raids
Attorney General A. Mitchell Palmer hired J. Edgar Hoover
What Palmer did, besides violating the law

Fighting Fascism:

Populists vs fascists
Populists want more democracy. Authoritarians are willing to give up democracy.

Book How Democracies Die.


Questions used to identify populists?


Silence of the LawJapanese internment
Based on lies, including Supreme Court Korematsu decision
Scalia said it could happen again during time of war.


Pogo was wrong an Ten Steps to Strengthen America
Establish political equality among all
Equality of Opportunity, economic equality, prohibition of special deals for powerful special interests
Make one party a check on the other, so far as the existence of parties cannot be prevented


6- Americans should stop othering each otherstop fearmongering and name-calling
7-confront and make peace with our history
8 confront and understand the challenges our fellow citizens face.
9 Base decisions on basic facts
10- Remember that we are all in this together.

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This conversation does not include the critical context for the rise in authoritarianism and fascism in this time of populism/progressive uprising all over the world. That context is the progression from the Age of Pisces (2500 years or so in which individualism and idealism are saturated in the human consciousness) and the new Age of Aquarius (the next 2000 years or so in which humanity will learn how to ground those Piscean ideals ((freedom, justice)) and create a new civilization based on right human relationships. How we can do that will determine whether humanity will survive on Earth. No joke.

Suggest that wrestling with the past is Sisyphean, for it does not bring in the consciousness needed for resolving the past. As A. Einstein said: you cannot solve a problem with the consciousness that created it. The new Aquarian consciousness is driving populism, but we have not yet learned how to be more than firebombers, thereby creating a fearful opposition of equal violence. This is a huge and critical point that needs to be elucidated, understood and then digested before it is too late.

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Betsy,

Jorge Santayana: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

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Blair, Not suggesting ignoring history at all. There are groups now that want to tear down and throw away all objectionable monuments to history. I am speaking to understanding the ideologic producing context within which our historic ideas and events occurred, and the context within which the current populism is surging. All is energy. The energies that created authoritarianism and fascism are waning, but the people conditioned by those energies are still in place and continue to whip what will turn out to be a dead horse. The energies that are inspiring equality, the demand for justice and freedom, are waxing and, hopefully, will refine human consciousness in a way that allows for the peaceful demonstration of those ideals. Since we are in the midst of that transition, chaos reigns as does confusion, redefinition of terms, and the mores and folkways we all depend on. If we can understand the context, we can more ahead. If now, there will be more violence and destruction until someone raises a hand and asks for some better way to solve our difference. We'll see.

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Nancy,

You wrote:

"The energies that created authoritarianism and fascism are waning, but the people conditioned by those energies are still in place and continue to whip what will turn out to be a dead horse. The energies that are inspiring equality, the demand for justice and freedom, are waxing."

I can accept this if you are taking into account the big picture. As I understand it, the astrological ages/energies persist for some 2,000+ years. If you mean that we may need to wait 2K years, fine.

However, what I see is that humanity and the Biosphere are in for a very rough ride. Extinction is a possibility, depending on choices we make now and during the next 40 years. During this period we are likely to see an expansion of authoritarianism as social systems and the ecology collapse, while people clamor for strongman leaders to keep things from falling apart.

And while the mendacious elite continue to launch their nefarious plans.

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This has been coming up more frequent recently, Betsy. Thank you for the post as it is the first time I have seen it at OEN.

Behold the "Dawning of Aquarius"

Arguably not many people around the world are aware that a Jupiter-Saturn conjunction this December 21st seems to represent the ultimate game-changer - defined by serious astrology scholars as the Great Mutation.

Aquarius is opposite to the centralizing sign of Leo. Geopolitically, that is to say, it is not the time for a hegemonic single star to rule the world, but a time of many stars illuminating the entire sky. It is not a time for a single empire. There can be empires, if in plural. The strength of powerful nations now lies, more than ever, in the quality of their partnerships and alliances in mutual respect, as equals.

Any power which loses sight of that crucial key will see it, in the short or long run, backfire. Some are more powerful than others and some will be more prominent than others. Nonetheless, they are not alone. It is time for a multipolar world - now that is the Mandate of Heaven.

This is an excerpt of "An astrological reading for Planet Earth at a time of Great Mutation" By Pepe Escobar with permission and first posted at Asia Times


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so many. That is something in itself. =20
So maybe it really be a new start for humanity. Keep looking upward.


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Well Rob; this general acceptance of Authority seems an unfortunate human trait. All of our organizational "isms" seem to share a tendency to an 'unquestioning obedience'. In that regard, Fascism and Communism are not incompatible. They are just different labels for the same thing.

Look at our current experience with "The Virus":

The best evidence of what a fraud this whole 'virus thingy' really is, can be found in the Bipartisan Looting of the American stimulus bill!!!!
When the People will get less than $200 Billion out of the $900 Billion agreement, then there seems to be a disconnect. If the "Virus/Pandemic" was real, and the politicians were concerned about it, then looting the Public Purse at this time would be like 'picking pockets on the deck of the sinking Titanic!

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I don't see the low amount the legislators have allotted as evidence of what a fraud it is. It is evidence at what despicable reptilian MFs the legislators are, starting with Pelosi and Schumer.

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Now Rob, I think that description was Very Accurate...:D

On the "Fraud" issue, I can supply a link to a 6 minute article detailing a lot of Truth if you wish. However, I tire of being ostracized as a 'tinfoilhatter' no matter what evidence I present. "Truth" is a funny thing depending upon who you speak with? When people refuse to listen, it is hard to communicate.

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It is critical to be aware of the role and prevalence of "false flag operations"/deception in accomplishing fascist and authoritarian goals.

Examples include the Gulf of Tonkin, 9/11, possibly the Covid virus and a likely massive future operation (see Steven M. Greer on Youtube and/or his books and videos/movies).

Denial is the worst possible strategy.

We need to be knowledgeable about the specifics of these events and make the existence of such operations public. Such knowledge is the vital Achilles heel of such regimes. Otherwise, a fascist/authoritarian future beckons.

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Good points Blair! If we value Liberty and Integrity, we cannot afford to delegate our thinking responsibility to some external "Authority". Many people have been made Fearful of the Unknown, while Authority allows just enough comfort to continue the "Boiling Frogs" program.

If an "Authority" is legitimate it should not fear questioning. The repressions against questioning and dissent show how flawed the top-down solutions really are.

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Paul,

Right on target!

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For anyone here with interest in reading more about "Authoritarian structure" I link to Bob Altemyer's book "The Authoritarians". You can read a pdf for free or buy the book. It is a heavy but interesting read.

authoritarians.org/options-for-getting-the-book/

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Thanks Paul,

I'm familiar with Altemeyer's work, In turn I can recommend The Chalice and the Blade by Riane Eisler, as well as two books by Philip Slater that deal with the dominator mentality: The Chrysalis Effect: The Metamorphosis of Global Culture and A Dream Deferred: America's Discontent and the Search for a New Democratic Ideal.

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Agreed. But the other side is the blathering, rabid idiots, like Alex Jones, who sees a false flag every time someone farts.

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Rob,

"But the other side is the blathering, rabid idiots, like Alex Jones, who sees a false flag every time someone farts."

One element of such shenanigans is to muddy the waters so that: 1) people have no clue re- the presence of actual false flag attacks, and 2) to manipulate folks into invalidating the whole concept of such operations, and 3) to give whackos a platform for their paranoia, narcissism, etc.

Since "conspiracies" simply seems to be the way business too often is done today, it is up to us to separate the wheat from the chaff, and certainly not to hide our heads in the sand.

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Rob's podcast is called Bottom Up. While this may be how we practically move forward, I think 1% authoritarianism began during Neolithic era. This demarks the hierarchical organizing principles.

Thousands of years ago, homo sapiens took a turn toward domestication. With it came patriarchal authoritarianism. The seeds of fascism surfaced during the trajectory of civilization as it became ever more complex and wed to technocracy.

So the US empire and neoliberal hegemony is a means to modern day authoritarianism. This is not about a particular US administration.

A way forward is rooting ourselves into our natural existence, human scale living and a rebirth of egalitarian existence. I don't see it intentionally occurring except through some alternative life-styles. Authoritarian rule continues to be the way to enforce power over masses - homo sapiens species grew from 1 billion at the turn of the 19th to 20th centuries. We're now 7+ billion in just over a century and expecting to see 10 million in the near future.

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Well said!

I also believe that any changes must be "Bottom up". I would extend that to suggest we must change ourselves. In many ways our 'Leaders' really are a reflection of ourselves. If we cannot improve in the greater population, we will never have the moral authority and convictions to demand better from our leaders.There is much room for improvement in human psyches. For one obvious case, we need to develop a 'new standard of values'. So long as Financial Wealth is the cornerstone of everything in our civilization, then those who control the generation of wealth will have a stranglehold on our behaviors. I don't suggest austerity. I don't suggest doing with less. Rather, I suggest that we work to identify what is really personally valuable to us and then strive to create more of that.

Let the 1% keep their dollars and their yachts. I don't crave or need either of those! I don't care, so long as I have the ability to create my own happiness.

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That's pretty much what I propose in my book, Bottom-up Revolution-- that civilization brought the affliction of excessive top down mind.

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Not all conspiracy theories are created equal. And the "4th Industrial Revolution and Great Reset" is not a conspiracy theory. Nor do I understand how challenging and opposing government biosecurity dictates that are unconstitutional, unproven and sets a precedence makes one an "authoritarian".

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Hello David; I think you either misread or misstyped?

The "Authoritarian mindset, is the one which agrees with the 'Official Narrative'. It seems that none of us really do.

One gets two, mutually exclusive results from searching "Conspiracy theorist" and then searching the two words separately. "Conspiracy" is a hidden agreement to engage in an often illegal act, and "Theory" is just an idea which has not yet been proven beyond doubt.

As in that cornerstone of modern physics: Einstiene's "Theory of Relativity". After fifty years, still not "Proven"??

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Overall this was a good interview and very informative.

What I am referring to on biosecurity starts at about minute 50 "we're all in it together etc" as well as the tone that "conspiracy theories" are the result of the rightwing using them to instill fear. Whereas many conspiracy theories that challenge the official narrative turn out not to be theories.

Some on the left are now calling challenges to the biosecurity state as "rightwing conspiracy theories". When many of those challenges are actually upholding the Bill of Rights. Trump is being attacked from the left for not being authoritarian enough with biosecurity.

P.S. Glenn Greenwald has an excellent article on this: The Threat of Authoritarianism in the U.S. is Very Real, and Has Nothing To Do With Trump. The attacks against Greenwald are now coming from the so-called left too.

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Do you have a good link for "the great reset?"

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The World Economic Forum click here

Covid-19: The Great Reset, Klaus Schwab presentation on YouTube.

Covid-19: The Great Reset, by Klaus Schwab, Amazon

The 4th Industrial Revolution, by Klaus Schwab, Amazon


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This is the pinnacle of civilization, defined as ever greater complexity, and authoritarian rule. It's not merely "capitalism writ large", its the entire enterprise. Even struggle is incorporated as a means of top-down control. There are far too many moving parts to struggle effectively for/against.

I think we need to come to terms with who runs the global system. Professor Peter Phillips in his important work Giants: The Global Power Elites, does just that. Rob you've interviewed Peter Phillips. This adds credibility to Schwab's Great Reset.

From what I can see the pieces are all in place, but will need to be activated, which is underway during this "pandemic". This has been decades in the making. If it succeeds it will dystopian. But I would say it has been succeeding and people are not, at least in the West, resisting. To use a recent analogy, they want their $2,000 checks even if it means trillions for war, and killing of children in the Middle East. The connection is invisible.

The entire enterprise is just overwhelming, but I've seen it throughout, how welfare is doled out, how payments can be controlled to obtain obedience. Health "care" is included, really expanded. The technology is there and has been tested as it's rolled out as Smart Cities and blockchain in Estonia, digital currency in various parts of EU, and Africa.

This is a rest of the economic system on one level - "Breton Woods Convention" 2.0 but on a more intrusive level.

There will be people who will struggle against this. Most, will follow. In my opinion, that's why the COVID policies were put in place sans science. How many people will simply follow the guidelines of masks, and social distancing, without question? I think we have our answer. Far too many.

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Health care is a good example of what the Reset has planned.

You'll get something called single-payer, or M4A, whatever label works. It will be a Public Private Partnership whereby public funds will be shifted over to private profit. It's happening to all "public services", health and military weapons manufacturing being the largest.

In the 1980s/90s a new model was put in place - Managed Care. (The word "care" is insidious lie.) This was a management of cost reduction and profit earnings increase, by managing benefits through a "gatekeeper" PCP. HMOs were introduced as one form of MC.

Today what we call traditional Medicare has been gradually gobbled up by for-profits through Advantage plans. These are private-for-profit insurers. They have 35 - 40% of the Medicare market. They advertise like crazy (traditional Medicare does not). Soon they will own the lion's share of Medicare (public-private-partnership).

These are the insidious moves over time to privatize everything (including education). So Bernie's M4A will be a Trojan horse. You will be managed to the nth degree. You will be a consumer/product of the system. This all figures into the Reset and the Forth Industrial Revolution.

My guess is most Americans will take the bait as it's sold, like they do most everything else including endless wars which don't even need to be sold any more. This is what has happened over thousands of years of civilization, much of it rooted from the beginning in the Neolithic/Bronze Age. This is not simply about Stalin or Hitler or Mussolini or Franco or some one-off tyrant. This is authoritarian civilization as created from the beginning.

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Even in Canada; With our National Health Care, the bulk of "Extended Care Homes" are privately owned. I do find it puzzling that over 80% of our "Covid" fatalities have come from these facilities??

That does not make good financial sense, until one searches evidence of the understaffing and general neglect found in these "Care Homes"..Obviously, when they say "For profit" they mean it!

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Mr. Kall; There are no lack of good 'links' for The Great Reset. The Canadian Prime Minister even foolishly crowed about what a great opportunity this phony "Pandemic" presented for the implementation of a Great Reset, and that was on the podium of the United Nations...

There you have everything. Both the "Fraud" you cannot see and a "Conspiracy"! Nearly every government on earth has seized this "Opportunity". How on earth can this illness be described as a "Pandemic"? !/40th of 1% of the global population is insignificant! More people die from Alzeimers than from this virus(?)!

Here is the link you didn't want. There is no shortage of information available for all the rotten things happening, and many videos and articles provide citations to medical records and even government websites, (Unlike the soundbites on the "News"!)

.youtube.com/watch?v=ROfUYTcagVE&feature=youtu.be

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During a long journey of the USA, many destinies have been covered. It may also cover many more. To know a new Journey,please: Dalai Lama Selection: New Virus Between USA and China, click here

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The question nobody is asking:

Where is "The Right to Authority" as it is being claimed today?

The Rules and Regulations being imposed (specially in Canada), do not have the Force of Law! The lockdowns, the Masking, and the Social Distancing, contravene the Canadian Charter of rights and The Constitution!

Such things could be done by changing the Law, but only through a vote in Parliament? That has not happened. Instead, the "Health Ministers" have been made defacto Dictators in many countries.

How do the leaders manage this without people finding some courage?

The "Great Reset" is even more egregious. The Rule of Law has openly been replaced with "The Rule of Money".I certainly never voted for Bill Gates or Tommy Dorsey. And certainly not for that monster who calls himself "Claus Schwab"!

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Here is "The True North Strong and Free"?????????????????

.youtube.com/watch?v=FGFhK7n2Qwk&list=WL&index=2

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How soon we forget!

"There is no honor!"

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"Fraud"??

As different pressure groups and journalists begin to demand answers from the various health authorities, it's becoming clear now that there has likely been some degree of widespread, systemic administrative fraud designed to over-inflate COVID-19 numbers to the detriment of every other normal seasonal illness or disease.

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