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February 12, 2008 at 10:56:52

Principal Electrical Engineer for WTC: "Fuel and Planes Alone Did NOT Bring the Towers Down"

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Richard F. Humenn, PE was the Senior Project Design Engineer for electrical systems for the entire World Trade Center, and he had 60 people working under him. In other words, he was the guy in charge of all electrical at the WTC. A retired licensed professional engineer, he was certified by the States of New York, New Jersey, Connecticut and Washington, D.C.

Humenn stated to Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth:

On September 11, I watched the live TV broadcast of the progressive collapse of the World Trade Towers with disbelief, as the mass and strength of the structure should have survived the localized damage caused by the planes and burning jet fuel.

I viewed the presentation of Richard Gage and other related material, which compels me to believe that the fuel and planes alone did not bring the Towers down. I, therefore, support the proposal to form an international group of professionals to investigate all plausible causes for the virtual freefall and the almost total destruction of the WTC structures.

Humenn also recently gave a two-hour recorded interview to an attorney and former law school professor (a transcript of the interview will soon be posted to AE911Truth.org). In that interview, Humenn expressed his opinion that the Twin Towers were intentionally demolished. (He stated that he could not believe the U.S. government could have done such a thing; however, he was not asked about rogue elements within the government).

Few engineers have as much first-hand knowledge of the Twin Towers as Humenn, so his opinion carries some weight. As he explains, "Though an electrical engineer by trade, I was also very familiar with the structures and their conceptual design parameters."

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erik mouseconcerned citizen of planet earth

Anyone else feel like we are fast approching the cliff?

Much of the headway that has been gained in the last 6 months regarding 911 truth and impeachment and numerous investigations all make me feel uneasy.  It's as if we are backing the dog into the corner.  We may in fact see the truth come out on a lot of these issues, but I fear it may be some of the last free communications ever seen in this country.  We will see the beast behind the wool just long enough to be it's victom.

by erik mouse (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 106 comments) on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 11:52:54 AM
 


By William E. Douglas, Jr., who is author of "The Amateur Parent – A Book on Life, Death, War & Peace, and Everything Else in the Universe." Bill has been a guest columnist for the Kansas City Star, The Business Journal, and other media worldwide. His past essays include, "Exposing the 9/11 Conspiracy Wingnuts," "The Explosion of the 9-11 Truth Movement -- US Media's Dirty Little Secret," "Good Night, and Good Luck - WMD, NIST, Popular Mechanics, ...

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Bill DouglasBy William E. Douglas, Jr., who is author of "The Amateur Parent – A Book on Life, Death, War & Peace, and Everything Else in the Universe." Bill has been a guest columnist for the Kansas City Star, The Business Journal, and other media worldwide. His past essays include, "Exposing the 9/11 Conspiracy Wingnuts," "The Explosion of the 9-11 Truth Movement -- US Media's Dirty Little Secret," "Good Night, and Good Luck - WMD, NIST, Popular Mechanics, ...

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Here's where we've been given a way out . . . if we take it

Here's where we've been given a way out . . . if we take it . . .

www.TheShellGame.net has a "911 Trailer" 90 second video that does several things:

1- It warns of a false flag operation to fool America into war with Iran (This would make it VERY difficult for the Admin to pull off a false flag op, IF WE DO ALL WE CAN TO SPREAD THIS VIDEO OUT)

2- It promotes a book "The Shell Game" which hit #31 on the NY Times best seller list last week WHICH DETAILS A WHITEHOUSE NEO-CON FALSE FLAG ATTACK ON AMERICA!
(This would make it VERY difficult for the Admin to pull off a false flag op, IF WE DO ALL WE CAN SPREAD THE WORD AND DRIVE THIS BOOK TO #1)

3- As this book rises on the NY Times list the author will get more media time.  When he's been on mainstream media he's:

- Demanded a new 9/11 investigation

- Demanded an investigation into the 9/11 War Games

- Demanded an investigation into Cheney's 9/11 Air Force stand down order

- SAID THAT 9/11 TRUTH MOVEMENT ACTIVISTS ARE HEROES ALL OF AMERICA SHOULD SUPPORT !!

So, yes, we are in dangerous times . . . BUT WE'VE GOT GIFTS RIGHT IN OUR FACE.

No one should ever send an email, or post a 9/11 related post without having the below included in the email, post, blog, etc.  WE CAN HAVE AN IMPACT IF WE TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY !!

" Visit www.TheShellGame.net - Urge everyone you know to get multiple copies of "The Shell Game" for all their friends and relatives!"

“. . . they [the majority of Americans] shall come to realize what I now realize… that the 9/11 Truth Movement are the real patriots in 21st century America!" 

    -- Steve Alten, New York Times Best Selling Novelist (author of “The Shell Game”)
 

by Bill Douglas (68 articles, 2 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 434 comments) on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 3:03:59 PM
 


'The people are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.' Thomas Jefferson 1787
Munich'The people are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.' Thomas Jefferson 1787

Re: Principal Electrical Engineer for WTC

And so here we have Richard F. Humenn, PE and the Senior Project Design Engineer for electrical systems for the entire World Trade Center who viewed the presentation of Richard Gage and other related material regarding 911, which compels Mr. Humenn to believe that the fuel and planes alone did not bring the World Trade Towers down. Am I hearing this correctly?

So now what? And why isn't this Breaking News on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, UHF, VHF... etc.  For Christ's sake! How much more bloody evidence and truth has to be shown before something is done around here !!!!! This is nothing but pure bullshit!

What kind of country is this that we're living in anyway!

The American people had better wake up and fast! We're starting to look more and more like the dam Eloi! You do remember the fate of Eloi don't you?

by Munich (0 articles, 66 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 830 comments) on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 12:27:14 PM
 


Avid reader, jazz musician, philosopher, chef, stone mason, carpenter, writer, painter, poet,humanist, teacher, holistic ethicist who believes consciousness and love pervade the universe, except among self-obsessed humans. I perceive the philosophical unified field to be consciousness and joy. The entire universe is composed of waves, which we surf by understanding.
martinweissAvid reader, jazz musician, philosopher, chef, stone mason, carpenter, writer, painter, poet,humanist, teacher, holistic ethicist who believes consciousness and love pervade the universe, except among self-obsessed humans. I perceive the philosophical unified field to be consciousness and joy. The entire universe is composed of waves, which we surf by understanding.

reality

Money can insulate one from the truth in matters arguable or superficial, but when reality approaches at high speed, even the power of money cannot soften the impact of the truth. These undeniable, irrepressible facts have been isolated from the media and their consequences have been denied. However, I believe the consequences of the Bush Administration's two stolen elections, abandonment of New Orleans, mass murder of the Iraqi people, and their complicity in the destructions of 9/11 cannot be avoided much longer.

Even the elite Bush family is answerable to we, the people. In America, there are no legal elites. 

Bush campaigned on "consequences", now he cannot avoid them.

Anybody stupid enough to vote Republican should be in a protected living facility, for the good of all. Bush may have to go into rehab for his own safety-- or Paraguay, he sure won't be getting out much. 

by martinweiss (19 articles, 4 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 343 comments) on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 1:49:13 PM
 


Just an ordinary nobody who's glad he took typing in 9th grade.
Alan WilliamsJust an ordinary nobody who's glad he took typing in 9th grade.

This would confirm .....

This would confirm what Willie Nelson is saying.  That's two old guys who probably aren't fully aware of the often deceptive and enticing nature of the Internet, not to mention the organization he's fallen in (love) with.

by Alan Williams (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 648 comments) on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 2:00:47 PM
 


Just a person that knows he matters and placing more on acceptance than expectation... And while this explanation is viewed apparently by some as limited, here's some more personal information that those same some believe I "need" to testify that I can post here at OpEdNews.com:
I have an undergraduate degree (BA even - not a foppish BS) in biology/environmental science with an emphasis on environmental/ecological systems (they are, like, um, so complex), a master's degree in public he...

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Tom MurphyJust a person that knows he matters and placing more on acceptance than expectation... And while this explanation is viewed apparently by some as limited, here's some more personal information that those same some believe I "need" to testify that I can post here at OpEdNews.com:
I have an undergraduate degree (BA even - not a foppish BS) in biology/environmental science with an emphasis on environmental/ecological systems (they are, like, um, so complex), a master's degree in public he...

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Go... team!

Oh, yeah... the growth rate of "converts" has been exponential over the past six plus years... 

How many professional engineers have signed onto the ae911truth.org bandwagon?  A presumed 267 because people have been taken of for silly reasons once "exposed".  I hope, folks, that we're aware that there are hundreds of thousands of architects and engineers in the U.S. alone.  And you lay claim to 267?  Go... team!

by Tom Murphy (3 articles, 4 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 1719 comments) on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 3:32:42 PM
 


Just a person that knows he matters and placing more on acceptance than expectation... And while this explanation is viewed apparently by some as limited, here's some more personal information that those same some believe I "need" to testify that I can post here at OpEdNews.com:
I have an undergraduate degree (BA even - not a foppish BS) in biology/environmental science with an emphasis on environmental/ecological systems (they are, like, um, so complex), a master's degree in public he...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Tom MurphyJust a person that knows he matters and placing more on acceptance than expectation... And while this explanation is viewed apparently by some as limited, here's some more personal information that those same some believe I "need" to testify that I can post here at OpEdNews.com:
I have an undergraduate degree (BA even - not a foppish BS) in biology/environmental science with an emphasis on environmental/ecological systems (they are, like, um, so complex), a master's degree in public he...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Yup - thousands...

Admittedly, ae911truth.org was only launched in May 2007, but its seeds were planted before that with other 9/11 Truth web sites. 

As to whether or not thousands of engineers have been exposed to the collapse hypothesis, the answer is "YES".  The WTC collapses were THE discussion for engineers from 2001 though early 2004.  A large number of professional journals published peer-reviewed papers on what "caused" the collapse.  Almost all of these papers concured with the NIST report's conclusions.

Why did these thousands of engineers only review these papers?  They are the only ones published.  Truthers, as a rule, avoid reputible journals because they "know" their papers would be rejected for serious scientific and/or format flaws - not thier content, although they'll claim it to be the latter.

Oh, and G'day to you also, Ms. Roberts-Piper.  It has indeed been awhile since we last traded comments.  I trust all is well and hope the truth spreading is being received... appropriately :)

by Tom Murphy (3 articles, 4 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 1719 comments) on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 9:58:49 PM
 


Just an ordinary nobody who's glad he took typing in 9th grade.
Alan WilliamsJust an ordinary nobody who's glad he took typing in 9th grade.

Fools....

You mean that self-created "peer review" portal?

I wonder how many science and engineering professionals are under the false impression that to be credible they have to have their stuff reviewed by someone other than their friends.  The fools.

Journal Of Nine Eleven Studies 

by Alan Williams (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 648 comments) on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 3:37:29 PM
 


Just an ordinary nobody who's glad he took typing in 9th grade.
Alan WilliamsJust an ordinary nobody who's glad he took typing in 9th grade.

Good point

Inappropriate and potentially dangerous in either case.

by Alan Williams (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 648 comments) on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 4:08:36 PM
 


Just an ordinary nobody who's glad he took typing in 9th grade.
Alan WilliamsJust an ordinary nobody who's glad he took typing in 9th grade.

Disclosure?

I think you need to disclose whether or not you're making any money off promoting this book at every turn.  
 
I think that's fair, considering all the other conflict of interest accusations we see coming from your side. 

by Alan Williams (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 648 comments) on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 3:24:45 PM
 


Just an ordinary nobody who's glad he took typing in 9th grade.
Alan WilliamsJust an ordinary nobody who's glad he took typing in 9th grade.

Whoops....

That was meant to be a reply to the Bill Douglas book promotional post above.

by Alan Williams (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 648 comments) on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 3:27:04 PM
 


By William E. Douglas, Jr., who is author of "The Amateur Parent – A Book on Life, Death, War & Peace, and Everything Else in the Universe." Bill has been a guest columnist for the Kansas City Star, The Business Journal, and other media worldwide. His past essays include, "Exposing the 9/11 Conspiracy Wingnuts," "The Explosion of the 9-11 Truth Movement -- US Media's Dirty Little Secret," "Good Night, and Good Luck - WMD, NIST, Popular Mechanics, ...

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Bill DouglasBy William E. Douglas, Jr., who is author of "The Amateur Parent – A Book on Life, Death, War & Peace, and Everything Else in the Universe." Bill has been a guest columnist for the Kansas City Star, The Business Journal, and other media worldwide. His past essays include, "Exposing the 9/11 Conspiracy Wingnuts," "The Explosion of the 9-11 Truth Movement -- US Media's Dirty Little Secret," "Good Night, and Good Luck - WMD, NIST, Popular Mechanics, ...

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No, I make nothing off this book. I'm one of those rare Ame

No, I make nothing off this book.  I'm one of those rare Americans who gives a sh*t about truth.

www.TheShellGame.net

SPREAD THE WORD ON THIS EXPLOSIVE BOOK !!

Google "Bill Douglas 9/11" to see I've been in the trenches for six long years fighting for truth and not only making nothing from it, but spending my life savings so I could work almost full time on 9/11 truth issues.

Most major 9/11 truth activists know of my work, I helped design and nationally distribute the iconic "Stop the 9/11 Cover Up" signs, and not only made nothing off of it, but raised funds for it to send thousands of them to NY and San Francisco at no charge to them.

I wish others who know what I've done would take two seconds to say it, but I'll defend myself.

Here's a tip.  When some poor sack of crap suggests I'm doing this for money, google their name, and then google "Bill Douglas 9/11" and findtruth40@hotmail.com

Then you'll know who's for real and who's either cointelpro or just a garden variet as*hole.

by Bill Douglas (68 articles, 2 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 434 comments) on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 4:54:38 PM
 


Just an ordinary nobody who's glad he took typing in 9th grade.
Alan WilliamsJust an ordinary nobody who's glad he took typing in 9th grade.

Wow!

You are one special individual, then.

Your only motivation is getting at that awful truth.  The awfuler the better. 

(somehow, I kinda hoped, for your sake, that you were only in it for the money) 

by Alan Williams (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 648 comments) on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 10:53:22 PM
 


Just a person that knows he matters and placing more on acceptance than expectation... And while this explanation is viewed apparently by some as limited, here's some more personal information that those same some believe I "need" to testify that I can post here at OpEdNews.com:
I have an undergraduate degree (BA even - not a foppish BS) in biology/environmental science with an emphasis on environmental/ecological systems (they are, like, um, so complex), a master's degree in public he...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Tom MurphyJust a person that knows he matters and placing more on acceptance than expectation... And while this explanation is viewed apparently by some as limited, here's some more personal information that those same some believe I "need" to testify that I can post here at OpEdNews.com:
I have an undergraduate degree (BA even - not a foppish BS) in biology/environmental science with an emphasis on environmental/ecological systems (they are, like, um, so complex), a master's degree in public he...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Bill is - most likely - a shill

To further promote "The Shell Game", an intensive grassroots advertising campaign was launched by Ascot Media Group, Inc. - http://ascotmedia.com/news.html , starting in the fall 2007. This company's origin and Mr. Alten's association with it are somewhat questionable - click here .

But it appears as though people were retained to "promote" the novel at the grassroots level. This might explain the tireless efforts by some to promote (last name starts with D and ends with S) "The Shell Game" across many progressive web sites with convenient links back to http://www.theshellgame.net/ , whose ownership remains unknown. 

There is a more logical link for the novel ( http://www.cedarfort.com/sweetwater/shellgame.html ), via the publisher web site at Cedar Fort, Inc. - http://www.cedarfort.com .

by Tom Murphy (3 articles, 4 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 1719 comments) on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 3:43:26 PM
 


Cheri Roberts is a longtime activist and writer who has worked in mixed media for 15 yrs. With 911 Truth as a primary focus, she participates in and organizes for events both locally and nationally always striving to get people out of their chairs and in the streets. She believes the biggest strength of the 911 Truth movement is the one strength they have yet to embrace, unity.
Cheri RobertsCheri Roberts is a longtime activist and writer who has worked in mixed media for 15 yrs. With 911 Truth as a primary focus, she participates in and organizes for events both locally and nationally always striving to get people out of their chairs and in the streets. She believes the biggest strength of the 911 Truth movement is the one strength they have yet to embrace, unity.

shell game.net

is merely a site for the book that also promotes 9/11 truth sites.

Is the truth movement being used by Alten? I suppose it is possible however I don't think so. The Shell Game is a great book and I support it. I also support getting it to the masses as I believe it will make people think.

Now all that being said...does Bill stand to gain something from promoting this book? Answer unknown if we are talking monetarily, I will say that ANY citizen of the US stands to gain by this book by way of knowledge. 

I don't feel the book will change any minds that are already made up, I do believe it will greatly open the minds that are dormant.

Oh BTW Mr Murphey, it is nice to see you today. I haven't seen you for a bit. 

 

by Cheri Roberts (16 articles, 15 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 435 comments) on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 3:53:54 PM
 


By William E. Douglas, Jr., who is author of "The Amateur Parent – A Book on Life, Death, War & Peace, and Everything Else in the Universe." Bill has been a guest columnist for the Kansas City Star, The Business Journal, and other media worldwide. His past essays include, "Exposing the 9/11 Conspiracy Wingnuts," "The Explosion of the 9-11 Truth Movement -- US Media's Dirty Little Secret," "Good Night, and Good Luck - WMD, NIST, Popular Mechanics, ...

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Bill DouglasBy William E. Douglas, Jr., who is author of "The Amateur Parent – A Book on Life, Death, War & Peace, and Everything Else in the Universe." Bill has been a guest columnist for the Kansas City Star, The Business Journal, and other media worldwide. His past essays include, "Exposing the 9/11 Conspiracy Wingnuts," "The Explosion of the 9-11 Truth Movement -- US Media's Dirty Little Secret," "Good Night, and Good Luck - WMD, NIST, Popular Mechanics, ...

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FOR THE RECORD, I MAKE NOTHING OFF THE SHELL GAME

MURPHY THE HOPELESS COINTELPRO, KNOW THAT, I'VE POSTED IT MANY TIMES BEFORE, BUT HE KEEPS REPEATING HIS MEANINGLESS SLANDEROUS CRAP SO THAT ANYONE WHO'S STUPID ENOUGH TO BUY HIS LOAD . . . MAYBE WON'T BACK "THE SHELL GAME" AS THEY SHOULD IF THEY WANT 9/11 TRUTH OUT.

MURPH DOESN'T WANT 9/11 TRUTH OUT.  HE TRIES TO PRETEND HE CARES OCCASIONALLY, JUST TO CONFUSE.  DON'T BUY HIM.  HE'S POISON.

by Bill Douglas (68 articles, 2 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 434 comments) on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 4:47:11 PM