Bill Maher has been the white shining knight for the anti-war movement for years now, when he was canned from network TV, and eventually found a place on HBO.He's weekly insulted viciously those on the right who disagreed with him.I personally actually was a fan of Bill's standup long before, back when he was the fashion photographer on an episode of Roseanne.
About a year ago, a right wing pundit was on Real Time, and made a statement that actually resonated with me.I remember it so well, because I rarely agree with right wing pundits.He made the point that when Bill Maher caustically insults those who have a spiritual faith, and makes fun of all people living in the heartland of America . . . he drives people away from opening their minds to the issues he purports to care about.
This got the wheels turning back to the 60's and early 70's when it was discovered that the FBI had planted hippy-looking undercover agents to kick the cops in the shins, and urge otherwise peaceful normal protesters to violent actions.The goal – to discredit the anti-war movement by turning Americans against the protesters.
William Colby, a former Director of the CIA once revealed, "The Central
Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media."
Remember, before you roll your eyes and think "conspiracy theory," that it was
a former Director of the CIA who said that, not a mumbling homeless person.
That would like make his statement a FACT, rather than a theory.On this
week's "Real Time," when 9/11 truth activists stood up to shout questions about
the mysterious collapse of World Trade Center 7 on 9/11, Bill Maher had an
emotional meltdown and a Gestapo-moment, when he urged his security to
"kick their ass," including kicking the ass of a woman who stood and said that
Maher's action against a man who was only asking questions was cowardice.In
fact, Maher seemed to want to physically participate in kicking the woman's
ass.The scene was bizarre as Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee sat placidly
watching her host demanding a physical beating for people asking questions, and
By William E. Douglas, Jr., who is author of "The Amateur Parent – A Book on Life, Death, War & Peace, and Everything Else in the Universe." Bill has been a guest columnist for the Kansas City Star, The Business Journal, and other media worldwide. His past essays include, "Exposing the 9/11 Conspiracy Wingnuts," "The Explosion of the 9-11 Truth Movement -- US Media's Dirty Little Secret," "Good Night, and Good Luck - WMD, NIST, Popular Mechanics, 9/11 and Media Crimes" and also "Why the Jewish Community Should Demand 9/11 Truth."
The program is his. As audience members, they're NOT involved in the round table. Throw the die and pick a number - Murrah Building (ATF knew,) Kennedy assasination, King assassination, Twin Towers ... . I don't appreciate his stand on religion, but it is his show. Maher couldn't kick the butt of a 6 year old.
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Dale Hill (58 articles, 0 quicklinks, 101 diaries, 347 comments)
on Sunday, October 21, 2007 at 3:22:49 PM
As someone who is involved weekly in the struggle against major media monopoly of the airwaves, I completely understand why Bill Maher melted down when the subject of 9/11 truth was brought up on his show. It is the same reason that Art Bell formerly of Coast to Coast AM fame and his successor George Noory tap dance around the issue. Actually, Art didn't tap dance. He said outright that anyone who questions the official version of 9/11 was crazy and should be treated thusly.
Look at who owns the medium upon which these people play. You don't get on HBO or Clear Channel station by telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. You don't earn millions of dollars a year and get major book deals for cheesy self-promoting books if you tell the truth.
Those who press the question of 9/11 truth threaten the future income and position of those who sell their souls to the men in suits. You must go to alternative media to find it. We may not be on major TV networks, and we may not have fancy sets and expensive suits, but we don't have to answer to men behind the curtain, either.
Kate Mucci, Producer, Out There TV www.outtheretv.com
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Kate Mucci (5 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 3 comments)
on Sunday, October 21, 2007 at 4:16:01 PM
His betrayal is unforgivable. Our nation lost its soul during the "facilitation" of 9/11 by the Bush/Republicans -- which is increasingly common knowledge ALL OVER THE PLANET and now this airbag babbles like a obediant fascist with a little box on his back. WAS there a little box on his back?
Maher is all ego and money and always has been.
Who knows, maybe he dates Nancy Pelosi on the side. Anyway, "flush" goes the historical judgment of Maler. Too much is at stake (like EVERYTHING) to indulge his sucking up to the elites and pugs.
Bye, bye, Bill . . .
Don't call us and we won't call you.
Gutless jerk!
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W. Christopher Epler (Bill) (232 articles, 44 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 541 comments)
on Sunday, October 21, 2007 at 5:26:45 PM
Come on.... it's supposed to be an ORGANIZED television show
Leave Bill alone. He's trying to do his job; yes he does respect guests on his panel that have different views than him.... but, they are ON HIS PANEL. Not random hecklers in the audience DISRESPECTING him, his panel and discussions that they have scheduled to discuss. There is a time and a place people. If you were doing your job on live television and someone peeved you off by standing up and trying to take control in such a BS way, you just may want to kick their a$$es too. I know I would.
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JamieRS (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 2 comments)
on Sunday, October 21, 2007 at 6:07:21 PM
Do you worship Bill Maher? Here's why I ask. You say Bill should be able to say anyone questioning 9/11 is insane and should shut up.
YET, he won't have anyone on his show who could defend their positions.
So, then when they show up in the audience, to defend themselves from his baseless attacks . . . you say "leave bill alone"
This guy makes millions, from people like us. 1/3 of Americans think 9/11 was an inside job. Bill called us insane. Yet, he doesn't have the cajones to bring a 9/11 truth researcher onto his show.
I think Bill's had plenty of breaks, and its time to start asking "why?" What did Bill promise in order to get all his "breaks."??
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Bill Douglas (68 articles, 2 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 434 comments)
on Sunday, October 21, 2007 at 6:40:02 PM
Sorry, I should have added that I REALLY like your questions about Maher, especially the ones about how did he get all those "breaks"? It isn't sour grapes to ask such questions since they fall in the same category of why is Nancy Pelosi betraying her office and America so contemptably. SUCH QUESTIONS DESERVE OBJECTIVE ANSWERS. This isn't some bloody "polite" sitcom. We are fighting for your lives, the life our our nation, and the very Earth, and we should be challenging all these traitors to the max! Who gives a rats ass about the guy's "business". I'm worried about our dying planet and Maher is more concered about his "ratings"? We have left the time when you can have it both ways. It's put up or shut up, Bill, and you have put up a textbook Bush/REpublican spinn. To hell with you.
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W. Christopher Epler (Bill) (232 articles, 44 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 541 comments)
on Sunday, October 21, 2007 at 6:56:14 PM
I was glad Bill threw those mouthy people out of his show. They were members of the audience, not participants in the show. This show doesn't have audience participation, and if you think those people were right in addressing their issues in that forum you are horribly wrong.
Maher does not need to address them (the lunatics who shouted during HIS show), but personally, I would have been delighted to see them tasered. That's right, I went there. I totally enjoyed watching that guy from UF get tasered because he didn't know his place and security on Bill's show should have tasered that one guy and then tasered the woman and then put the videos on Youtube for my crassless enjoyment.
Freedom of speech comes with consequences, and those people suffered consequences. That's all I have to say about that.
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Tim Brosnan (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 6 comments)
on Sunday, October 21, 2007 at 7:05:23 PM
your taser there, Tim. The Homeland 'Security' (a euphemism for a word the 'thought' police cautioned against using) has openings, I'm sure. Perhaps I should have said 'Stasi'.
All in the media must be confronted for as long as it takes. The media... all five corporations of them ... including our little mockingbird Maher are in collusion with the elites. Fk. They are among the 'elites'. Maher is just a particularly mendacious mockingbird. It is easy to pretend to be a critic from the left. Indeed, it's taught extensively in Chapter II of 'How To Be A Particularly Mendacious Mockingbird' by Edward Bernays and Allen Dulles.
Confront the bastards wherever they are.
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richard (0 articles, 5 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 789 comments)
on Sunday, October 21, 2007 at 8:59:48 PM
Have you forgotten Maher's courageous stance directly after 911, a stance that got his show cancelled immediately.
He stood on stage, amidst the furor over the events that had occured, in the middle of the war propaganda ramping up, while most around him were calling all muslims cowards and war mongers, and stated simply that, "it takes more courage to fly a plane into a building for your principles than it does sitting five miles in the air dropping bombs on people".
Bill Maher is nobodies stooge or front man and because he does soemthing you conspiracy folks object to you sink to name calling....Get a clue.
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ardee D. (6 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 2377 comments)
on Monday, October 22, 2007 at 5:20:23 PM
This poster obviously has some deep issues he's trying to de
This poster obviously has some deep issues he's trying to deal with by having other people tasered.
There are healthier ways for us all to work out our issues. When America become so thin skinned that people who ask questions, or demand answers that they find "uncomfortable" to the point that the questioners should be tortured with electric shocks . . . then our democracy is near death.
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Bill Douglas (68 articles, 2 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 434 comments)
on Sunday, October 21, 2007 at 9:55:40 PM
How Many Millions of Americans Does Tim Want to Taser/Tortur
Scientific Poll: 84% Reject Official 9/11 Story Only 16% now believe official fable according to New York Times/CBS News poll Truth Movement has the huge majority of opinion How will the Bush Cabal react?
A monumental new scientific opinion poll has emerged which declares that only 16% of people in America now believe the official government explanation of the September 11th 2001 terror attacks.
According to the new New York Times/CBS News poll, only 16% of Americans think the government is telling the truth about 9/11 and the intelligence prior to the attacks:
"Do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying?
More than a third of the American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them so the United States could go to war in the Middle East, according to a new Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll.
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Bill Douglas (68 articles, 2 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 434 comments)
on Monday, October 22, 2007 at 5:52:10 PM
You and your fellow friends on here believe that anarchy is the way to go. This isn't about tasering, it's about manners. It's about decorum of which you people seem to have none of. You're saying that it's okay to disrupt proceedings like a Televised debate forum. You believe it's okay for someone who disagrees with what a person says to be able hijack their show. NO! Are you that oblivious to what your original argument was? If this was a Presidential debate, how long do you think it would have been before Secret Service took the disruptors out of the forum? Do you think they would have been gentle? You just don't get it. And you know what, if they (the disruptive people in the audience) continue with their anarchistic ways, then maybe tasering is what's needed. That's right, I went there again.
Learn manners, learn that there is a time and place or suffer the consequences. If a dog makes on your carpet, wouldn't you discipline him? Most people say to put their noses in it. You called tasering torture; are you that naive? Again, you are not following the bouncing ball. That guy who was tasered at UF was being hostile and pushed a campus officer, try doing that with a policeman during a routine stop and see what he does to you. This isn't a Gestapo-like state, but choose your forums better. Sticking a dog's nose where he makes inside would probably be considered torture by you. I'm sure that if you went to the pound and got a dog already grown that needed to be retrained, you'd be okay with a smelly home, because that's what you'd have.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, stop yammering about Bill Maher having his show and his guests and get your own damned show. You guys, especially the nutbag psychotic Ronnny Corvus (this guy does need to be drugged), need to back down and try to get yourselves heard in another type of forum. One where you can administer the terms and where you have the say-so over what topics will be discussed. Like it or not, that's how America works.
So get over it guys, you have the internet so just go out there and convince the American public of "you're version of the truth", but if someone hijacks your show, your forum, your internet - don't get upset. Don't be hypocrites; allow them to speak. Personally, after reading the ways that the bashers on here were commenting, I doubt they'd give anyone equal time if they didn't have to.
Peace out!
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Tim Brosnan (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 6 comments)
on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 at 8:41:16 AM
Look, there's a time and a place for everything. If he'd had someone on who'd been peddling the official story, then yeah, jump up and make a ruckus for the "truth." But I didn't see any reason to jump up and make a ruckus on that show, with those guests. It's like protesting a beer tax hike at a KKK rally.
So yeah, I don't blame him for wanting them thrown out. I don't know if running offstage to "help" was the greatest idea ever, but if you're trying to run a show and folks in the audience are disrupting it, then I have no problems with their removal, regardless of how just their cause.
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J. Edward Tremlett (16 articles, 0 quicklinks, 60 diaries, 77 comments)
on Sunday, October 21, 2007 at 11:10:36 PM
Downmelt, perhaps is unaware of Bill Maher's rants against q
Downmelt, perhaps is unaware of Bill Maher's rants against questioning 9/11. Bill Maher began this by attacking people who question 9/11, calling them "nut bags."
Downmelt, if Maher was a real man, or a real showhost, he'd have the architects, engineers, and high level military and intelligence experts who are now saying we've been lied to about 9/11.
Then, he'd argue with them instead of calling 1/3 of Americans who now know 9/11 was likely an inside job "names."
In a democracy you discuss and debate, you don't NAMECALL, AND THEN TASER PEOPLE WHEN THE PROTEST YOU NAME CALLING THEM.
If Maher isn't hired by the powers that be to stop people from demanding answers to 9/11, he sure acts like it. How does a mediocre comedian at best get so many "breaks", and then provides the best cover for a criminal admin. who engineered 9/11 to get us into endless oil wars?
Is it coincidence Maher and Mathews rise to power, and are unwilling to demand full answers regarding the events of 9/11 . . . rational minds don't think so.
Bill Maher worshippers seem to.
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Bill Douglas (68 articles, 2 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 434 comments)
on Monday, October 22, 2007 at 12:16:03 AM
Ron, although I agree with you on 9/11, stop hyperventilatin
Ron, although I agree with you on 9/11, stop hyperventilating for god's sake.
Most of what you said up there has nothing to do with 9/11. If you want a new investigation, you'll need to stay rational. These rants like the one above, are like Bill Maher trying to get the GOP states to understand the lunacy of war by insulting them constantly. It doesn't work.
Stick to 9/11 facts, and you'll get alot farther than just opening your liver to everything and everyone you don't like in the world, and dumping on on Maher, or whoever.
For those concerned about the lies of 9/11, that would like to see rational, and high level military, intelligence, engineering, and architectural experts comments on why the official 9/11 myth is a lie, visit:
ae911Truth.org "Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth" and
Patriotsquestion911.org
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Bill Douglas (68 articles, 2 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 434 comments)
on Monday, October 22, 2007 at 4:13:16 AM
Is this guy for real? Have you heard of ritalin buddy? You might want to try it sometime and chill or else someone like me just may take you up on one of your sadistic offers and turn the tables on you. You'd like that, wouldn't you?
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Tim Brosnan (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 6 comments)
on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 at 8:57:26 AM
First, i think you need to watch the clip again. In both instances Bill says that he wants to "kick their ass out of here". Your article and bashing of Bill is based on his want to "kick their ass" and by ommiting "out of here" you are really basing your argument on a quote taken out of context. If you want to bash Bill, make sure you are factually correct first.
Next, there is a time and place for everything. Bill was having a debate with guests on his show about evolution. It was extremely disrespecful for an audience memeber to interrupt that discussion by shouting out questions that were not even on topic. I'm all for a civil debate on any topic, but it really undercuts the message and questions that these people are trying to raise when they resort to tactics like these. If you want people to take your argument seriously, you need to present it in a more respectful manner.
I believe the people should have been removed, becuase they were part of Bill's audience and he has every right to want an orderly show.
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tvl (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 5 comments)
on Monday, October 22, 2007 at 10:48:24 AM
Since you have no concept of facts, not much else you said i
Since you have no concept of facts, not much else you said is of consequence. Kind of like Bill Maher slamming 9/11 truth seekers, when he himself has his horribly skewed and pathetically deficient non-understanding of what happened on 9/11 as his only point.
What Bill Maher told his audience members decrying Bill Maher's ignorance and lack of curiousity for how WTC Building 7 collapsed, was:
"or do I have to come over and kick this guys ass . . ." -- Bill Maher
"Yeah, don't be gentle with them -- ass kicking is what's called for . . ." -- Bill Maher speaking to his security dragging the 9/11 questioners out
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Bill Douglas (68 articles, 2 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 434 comments)
on Monday, October 22, 2007 at 1:06:55 PM
you did it again, instead of saying "kick his ass..." why don't you include the whole quote. "kick his ass out of here." There is a huge difference between wanting to phsically kick someone's ass and have someone removed from a building becuase they are disrupting a taping. Your argument against Bill Maher (based on this incident) is him wanting to be physically violent towards a man and a woman in the audience and it is simply not true.
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tvl (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 5 comments)
on Monday, October 22, 2007 at 1:53:49 PM
"Yeah, don't be gentle with them -- ass kicking is what's ca
"Yeah, don't be gentle with them -- ass kicking is what's called for . . ." -- Bill Maher speaking to his security dragging the 9/11 questioners out
Explain Bill Maher out of this one.
Bill Maher started this when he proclaimed on his show that 1/3 of America should be put on Paxil for questioning 9/11, and the official myth that denies the laws of physics.
This was an outrageous thing for a broadcaster to do. Don Imus got fired, and rightfully so, for insulting black women. Black women are less than 10% of America. Again, so as not to be misunderstood, he should have been held accountable for the low blow.
Now, Maher's comment was even worse, for two major reasons. One is that it was a slap at 1/3 of the American public, and actually more than half if you consider all who now believe we've been lied to about 9/11 by Bush et al. BUT, the other horrid aspect of Bill Maher's tirade against Americans seeking 9/11 truth . . . is that he advocated the "drugging" of them.
This is how the Soviet Union's KGB handled dissenters. This should have insulted the conscience of ALL Americans. The fact that this doesn't, and didn't bother "Bill Maher FANS" is one more reason, I can no longer stomach to watch his twisted show.
"Reexamine all you've been told . . . dismiss what insults your soul."
-- Walt Whitman (America's greatest poet)
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Bill Douglas (68 articles, 2 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 434 comments)
on Monday, October 22, 2007 at 2:34:59 PM