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Rob Kall's Vision: A Transcript of His Interview With Envision This!

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R: I just did an interview with Howard Gardner, the developer of the concept of Multiple Intelligences and he has a new book out called, App Generation, because he believes that young people are starting to think in terms of apps.

H2: mmhmm

R: And that could be scary and it could be a problem but we're seeing the biggest businesses in the world now being built upon Bottom Up technologies. iPhones would not be as big as they were without text messaging and email and Google and Facebook and Twitter-- those are all Bottom Up technologies -

H1: mhhmm

R: that are fueling this huge new realm of business and all of that is changing the world in some very powerful ways. And, to me, what I hope to see is massive changes-- Massive changes in economics and the way we live.I'm not a Democrat or a Republican, I'm an Independent.

H2: mhmm

H1: mhmm

R: my favorite member of Congress is Bernie Sanders, he's a socialist.

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H2: [laughs]

R: Socialism is kind of a, a word that that gets beat up pretty bad but the idea of everybody taking care of each other is something that's been around for millions of years for humans and their predecessors.

H2: [laughs]

R: and I think that's something to be proud to be into. This idea that everybody is for themselves and it's a jungle out there and a dog-eat-dog world, I think that that is a new concept that developed more recently. This Ayn Rand idea of Libertarian approaches is to me somewhere between narcissistic, and sociopath, and

H2: [laughs]

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R: psych-psychopath.

H1: Well, eh - eh

R: in the world of mammals, they, they're kind, they're fair, they have morals and even the animals that kill, they kill to eat. They don't kill for the sake of killing, like humans do. We have so much to learn from the part of nature that we've ignored. I loved the ideas that Daniel Quinn talked about--I know you interviewed him a while back. So did I-- and his book, Ishmael, I think we have a lot to learn and a lot to remember that we've forgotten and I think that what's exciting about it is that this whole Bottom Up revolution is making people billions of dollars and making them very successful but it, at the same time, I - I've always liked the, the idea of morphogenic fields that Rupert Sheldrake has put out there, that if you put out an idea, it gets replicated. The more you put it out the more it's replicated. So I'm very hopeful that this is gonna lead to big, big changes. that will make the world a better kinder, fairer, more just place for everyone, not just for the handful of billionaires and the one hundred fifty thousand people in America who are multimillionaires. I have a big problem with that. I've written a number of articles, I'm not the only one, Tom Hartmann has written about it, too. I really believe we have to get rid of billionaires. We have to make it so it's no longer legal to be a billionaire. It's an abnormality, it's an abomination in my mind. There are a couple of decent people who are billionaires but there are way too many who are, the - in that other class: the narcissists and the psychopaths and the sociopaths.

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