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The latest poll on impeachment comissioned from Zogby by OpEdNews is quite a disappointment. The numbers are so low as to be, to my mind, not credible. But we paid for it, they did it, and there's no undoing it.

If every polling company were out there polling the issue, there would be a few polls wildly low or high, but it would be possible to take the median outcome somewhat seriously. As it is, all we have to go by is the very small number of polls done over the past few years and collected at http://afterdowningstreet.org/polling

You'll notice in the history of impeachment polling collected at that site that Zogby has done a few impeachment related polls before. There was also a long period during which Zogby refused to poll on impeachment even for money.

You'll also notice that support for impeachment has always tended to be higher whenever a bit of context has been added, such as by asking "Would you support impeachment if..." and then naming some crime that Bush and Cheney have indisputably committed. OpEdNews has considered commissioning a poll with several questions in order to provide greater context, with the final question asking simply about support for impeachment hearings. That might be the way to go, given the blackout in the media, assuming a level of honesty and skill in the polling.

If Zogby's latest results are at all accurate, the public is not going to clamor for impeachment until given some context, and the media will not provide that until Congress impeaches, which effectively reverses the democratic process and turns the public into spectators.

Zogby found much lower support for impeachment than have a number of polls in the past (see http://afterdowningstreet.org/polling ) and at a time when Bush and Cheney's approval ratings have reached record historic lows.

"Do you support or oppose the efforts of the members of the house judiciary committee to begin impeachment hearings to investigate vice president Dick Cheney?" That was the question asked. Zogby found 55% opposed and 34% in favor. In part this result came from Zogby including a large pecentage of Independents in the poll, and those Independents being unusually opposed to impeachment. Among Democrats 60 percent were in favor, among Republicans 12. The marins of error for these subcategories are of course something significantly higher than the ± 3 percentage points for the overall results.
Rays of hope can be found - again, assuming there's anything accurate here - in various other demographic categories. See the attached tables below. [Rob will add them]

Rob kall here: 

While the total poll had 3% margin of error, specific demographic stats have a higher margin of error. I'm not sure I agree with David about there being too many independents in the poll, as the percentage seems about right to me based onthe past polls that have been done, give or take a few points.

here's a summary.

Keep in mind that OpEdNews ran another zogby poll, in the state of PA in May 2006, asking almost the identical question, and that poll

 

                                        For        Against   impeachment
total poll                              34       55
progressives                        68       30
liberals                                 55       33
moderates                           33       53
under 30,                             44        41
Jews                                     63        30
Protestants(over 50% ofpoll)28        61
Catholics                              32       56
other religion (20% of polled)47       43
Dems,                                  60        31
Republicans                         12        79
Independents                      26        59
Blacks                                  47        42
Hispanics                             43         46
whites                                 31         59
Single                                  47        38
Married                                30       61
$25-35K income                  44        36
under $25K                         42        43
Less than High school ed.   40        37
Male                                    33        61
female                                 35        50

 

 I (Rob Kall) shared the new poll and the 2006 PA poll results with Cheryl Biren Wright. She observed:

Looking at the groups that weighed in higher than the 33.9% that support impeachment, we've got:

Union members at 40.9% (50% in '06). Certainly, union support is important to the Democrats. Currently, I know of 3 union groups that have endorsed impeachment:

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