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What If Trump Refuses to Accept a Biden Victory? A Look at How Electoral Chaos Could Divide Nation

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As President Trump floats the idea of delaying the election, we speak with Nils Gilman, historian and co-founder of Transition Integrity Project, which organized a bipartisan group of experts to game out what a contested November election might look like. "In every scenario except for the one where Biden won in a landslide, we ended up with severe electoral contestation, protests in the streets, crazy stories happening on social media, and the challenges went down to Inauguration Day," Gilman says.


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AMY GOODMAN: White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows said Sunday the November presidential election will proceed as scheduled. That's after President Trump faced bipartisan outrage last week for suggesting delaying the election. Republican Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, Senator Lindsey Graham and even Steven Calabresi of the arch-conservative Federalist Society spoke out against the president, after Trump tweeted Thursday, quote, "With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???" unquote. President Trump has not taken back those comments. They came as nearly all polls project Trump will lose against Joe Biden in November. Mark Meadows backed off Trump's claim on CBS's Face the Nation, saying, "We're going to hold an election on November 3rd, and the president is going to win."

This is not the first time Trump has suggested he'd oppose the election process. He was asked about accepting the November election results during an interview last month with Chris Wallace on Fox News.

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: I think mail-in voting is going to rig the election. I really do.

CHRIS WALLACE: Are you suggesting that you might not accept the results of the election?


CHRIS WALLACE: Can you give a direct answer: You will accept the election?

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: I have to see. Look, you I have to see. No, I'm not going to just say yes; I'm not going to say no. And I didn't last time, either.

AMY GOODMAN: For more on the many questions surrounding this year's election, we're joined by historian Nils Gilman. He's vice president of programs at the Berggruen Institute and co-founder of the Transition Integrity Project, or TIP, which organized a bipartisan group of experts to game out what a contested November election might look like.

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