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Interview with Stephen Larsen, author, THE FUNDAMENTALIST MIND

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Originally broadcast on November 12, 2008, on the Rob Kall Bottom Up Radio Show.

Transcribed by Carla Gilby, Amanda Moreno and Linda Carraway

     Edited by Jay Farrington 

Kall:  Hello, it's the Rob Kall Bottom Up Radio Show, Rob Kall, and it's an interesting week.  In some ways, a let down; some ways, a lot of excitement.  First, I just want to say that we're going to have on tonight Dr. Stephen Larsen, who is the author of The Fundamentalist Mind.  That book got a gold medal as book of the year in the psychology category and I think it's going to be very interesting.  I've known Dr. Larsen for a good number of years, at least ten, maybe fifteen, years.  He's brilliant and I think he's going to bring us some very interesting conversation. 

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In the meantime, what is going on in the world?  We found out today that we were victims of “bait and switch.”  Yes, bait and switch.  That's what you call it when you made a deal, you sign a contract, and you go with the deal, and then somebody switches it on you.  That, my friends, is exactly what Hank Paulson did with our seven hundred billion... I'm leaving a space there for my language... SEVEN HUNDRED BILLION (#%!&#) DOLLARS! 

He told us today, “Oh, well, I'm not going to do what I said I was going to do with it, I'm gonna do something else.  I'm gonna do something else.  I'm gonna do things with my bank buddies and we're going to... invest in banks!”  Well, Paulson, the former head of Goldman-Sachs, is basically spreading 700 billion bucks around and there was no rush.  Hey!  Isn't that interesting?  The day that they came out with this demand, this two-page deal that they said they needed the money, they said that it was an urgent, urgent emergency, that the economic world, the universe, was going to cave in.  And you know what?  It didn't. 

It didn't at all.  Instead, what they did, was they pulled an Iraq deal on us.  That's exactly what I said, too.  What they did, was they said, “We are in danger, we are threatened; you, the cowards in Congress, the helpless idiots who all, en mass, like lemmings, run over the cliff anytime we tell you to, we will happily take $700B from you to start, and then whatever else we can steal using the Federal Reserve Bank.”  And... that's what they did. 

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And now, we find out today, that there was no rush, that they're just happily, gradually, doling out tens and hundreds of billions of dollars to banks.  The Congress says, “Well, you know, we could lose three million jobs if the auto industry goes under.  Do you think you could throw $25B of that $700B to save three million jobs?”  Well, they gave away $20B of it that's just for bonuses for execs.  So... who knows? 

I think I hear Steve Larsen on.  Are you there Steve? 

Larsen:  Hi there, Rob. 

Kall:  Hey, Steve.  You caught me ranting. 

Larsen:  Ahh!  Very good.  Well, it's a sensible kind of rant. 

Kall:  Yeah.  So.  Steve, I was saying I've known you for ten, fifteen years, at least. 

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Larsen:  I'm thinking like that. 

Kall:  Yeah, it's been a long time, and I've known you through the world of biofeedback and mythology; biofeedback basically with your expertise on the brain; and mythology, your work with Joseph Campbell and your story.  You've written a lot about religion over the years, but this is the first... It tended to be more... more metaphysical, would you say? 

Larsen:  That's probably right, Rob.  You've managed to capture both ends of my ADD. 

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Rob Kall is an award winning journalist, inventor, software architect, connector and visionary. His work and his writing have been featured in the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, CNN, ABC, the HuffingtonPost, Success, Discover and other media. He's given talks and workshops to Fortune 500 execs and national medical and psychological organizations, and pioneered first-of-their-kind conferences in Positive Psychology, Brain Science and Story. He hosts some of the world's smartest, most interesting and powerful people on his Bottom Up Radio Show, and founded and publishes one of the top Google- ranked progressive news and opinion sites,

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Rob Kall has spent his adult life as an awakener and empowerer-- first in the field of biofeedback, inventing products, developing software and a music recording label, MuPsych, within the company he founded in 1978-- Futurehealth, and founding, organizing and running 3 conferences: Winter Brain, on Neurofeedback and consciousness, Optimal Functioning and Positive Psychology (a pioneer in the field of Positive Psychology, first presenting workshops on it in 1985) and Storycon Summit Meeting on the Art Science and Application of Story-- each the first of their kind.  Then, when he found the process of raising people's consciousness and empowering them to take more control of their lives  one person at a time was too slow, he founded which has been the top search result on Google for the terms liberal news and progressive opinion for several years. Rob began his Bottom-up Radio show, broadcast on WNJC 1360 AM to Metro Philly, also available on iTunes, covering the transition of our culture, business and world from predominantly Top-down (hierarchical, centralized, authoritarian, patriarchal, big)  to bottom-up (egalitarian, local, interdependent, grassroots, archetypal feminine and small.) Recent long-term projects include a book, Bottom-up-- The Connection Revolution, debillionairizing the planet and the Psychopathy Defense and Optimization Project. 

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