Rob: You know I've been doing a series of interviews and articles about psychopaths and narcissism. And what you just described...domination, only caring about ourselves -- this is narcissism and psychopaths...that's what they do.
PCR: Right.
Rob: What's the role that you think psychopaths, sociopaths, and narcissists play in the troubles and challenges of the world and humanity?
PCR: Well I think those kind of people dominate governments. Less, I think, now in Russian and China because they came out of a period of extreme oppression and failure. And I think that they've been cleansed of a lot of the evil that has intensified in the west. So I think the worst psychopaths are in Washington. And the trouble is that the long Cold War, when the success of America propaganda made the world fearful of Russia and Mao's China, has created a view that Washington -- which is full of psychopaths -- is really wearing the white hat; and it was the defender of us from the totalitarians and Moscow and Beijing, and that kind of attitude makes people blind to the presence of psychopaths in their leadership.
Rob: Well one thing I've learned is that one of the things that narcissists do -- and every psychopath and sociopath is also a narcissist -- is they label all the people around them as 'the bad people,' they shame everybody else that they can label themselves as 'the good guys.'
PCR: Exactly, that's right. So any critic is a bad guy, opponents/opposition, anyone who doesn't accept their will -- so this is what happens to China and Russia, they get demonized...and Iran. Iran gets demonized because they don't accept being American vassals. We would leave China, Russia, and Iran alone if they would simply do what we wanted....like Europe-like, all of eastern and western Europe. Those countries are just vassals -- they don't have an independent foreign policy. The British do not have an independent foreign policy, the French do not, the Germans don't, the Italians don't...nobody. They followed Washington for so long because of the Cold War, that they don't even know how to have an independent foreign policy. They're not independent states, they are part of an empire. And that was what I was asking Chomsky...why does Washington take the risk with its European empire, of pushing them so hard against their own interests that they might actually rebel. And I notice that in the bombing that we've undertaken of ISIS, NATO is not participating. We've got Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia. Now, that's some kind of cover so it doesn't look like naked American aggression, but that is not a coalition of the willing, it's not NATO, even the British aren't in it -- which is surprising because you have to remember when we were prepared to invade Syria, having set up Assad with a false charge of using chemical weapons, Cameron was all for it and the British Parliament said no.
So it could well be that we keep pushing people against their interest, I mean other countries, that we'll break up our own empire. I've been wondering for a long time how much longer Japan would inflate its currency in order to protect the dollar. See one of the reasons the dollar stays strong is we've got the Japanese printing yen hand over fist. So the dollar can't decline relative to yen, it can't decline relative to the euro because if it starts any major move in that way we have a swap agreement -- we give the European Central Bank billions of dollars and they give us the counterpart in euros, then we go in and buy the dollars.
Rob: Now when you say that it could be that we could break up our own empire, that empire includes Germany and France, and Italy and Japan...
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