So what Glen Greenwald is doing right now I think is a public service. What Ed Snowden did, like what Bradley Manning did, was to try to present information to the American People that would allow them to understand the extent to which the government in conducting these operations in secrecy. It should encourage a serious confrontational debate in this country over what our own elected representatives, and more importantly, an unelected National Security State, is doing to us and in our name. I see it all as part of the same hyper-secret society that we're living in right now, and the need to confront it.
Rob Kall: One - I'm pushing. What about drones and drone killings? Could you comment on them and where we're going with that?
Jeremy Scahill: Well, there's very little new in war except technology; and like cruise missiles, drones offer the Commander in Chief the ability to wage war without having to subject American lives to being taken or soldiers to being maimed, and I think it is an attempt to sanitize the methods of war. But I don't hyper-focus on drones, because I think that it's the kill program and the assertions from the White House that are really the issue, not necessarily the weapons that they're using. I think drones become a point of interest for people because of what they represent: this idea that someone sitting in a trailer in the Southwest of the US can be bombing Pakistan or Yemen cuts to the heart of some the worst war mentality that we're in, which is this idea that you don't have to subject your own people to any kind of risk in order to engage in these operations; it happens with very minimal effective oversight. I think we're looking at a glimpse of the future with how these wars are being waged.
Rob Kall: OK, thanks so much Jeremy. We really appreciate it, hope we can have you back on.
Jeremy Scahill: OK Rob it was good talking to you. Thank you.
Rob Kall: Bye.
Jeremy Scahill: Bye.
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Rob Kall is an award winning journalist, inventor, software architect,
connector and visionary. His work and his writing have been featured in the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, CNN, ABC, the HuffingtonPost, Success, Discover and other media.
Check out his platform at RobKall.com
He is the author of The Bottom-up Revolution; Mastering the Emerging World of Connectivity
He's given talks and workshops to Fortune
500 execs and national medical and psychological organizations, and pioneered
first-of-their-kind conferences in Positive Psychology, Brain Science and
Story. He hosts some of the world's smartest, most interesting and powerful
people on his Bottom Up Radio Show,
and founded and publishes one of the top Google- ranked progressive news and
opinion sites, OpEdNews.com
more detailed bio:
Rob Kall has spent his adult life as an awakener and empowerer-- first in the field of biofeedback, inventing products, developing software and a music recording label, MuPsych, within the company he founded in 1978-- Futurehealth, and founding, organizing and running 3 conferences: Winter Brain, on Neurofeedback and consciousness, Optimal Functioning and Positive Psychology (a pioneer in the field of Positive Psychology, first presenting workshops on it in 1985) and Storycon Summit Meeting on the Art Science and Application of Story-- each the first of their kind. Then, when he found the process of raising people's consciousness and empowering them to take more control of their lives one person at a time was too slow, he founded Opednews.com-- which has been the top search result on Google for the terms liberal news and progressive opinion for several years. Rob began his Bottom-up Radio show, broadcast on WNJC 1360 AM to Metro Philly, also available on iTunes, covering the transition of our culture, business and world from predominantly Top-down (hierarchical, centralized, authoritarian, patriarchal, big) to bottom-up (egalitarian, local, interdependent, grassroots, archetypal feminine and small.) Recent long-term projects include a book, Bottom-up-- The Connection Revolution, debillionairizing the planet and the Psychopathy Defense and Optimization (more...)