Rob Kall:
There's a best-selling book out right now, Antifragile, by Taleb,
and I think what he's describing is the embracing of chaos, and the idea that
chaos is not craziness and disorder, but craziness as creativity and higher
levels of order, and I love that you tie that together with the feminine.
Matthew Fox:
I'm glad. Here's another thing on
my mind: you know Lenny Cohen's music?
His song hallelujah? It's a
powerful song, and it's about "How can we maintain an Alleluia approach
to life? How can we maintain a
passionate love of life?" I think that
takes us real close to this idea of the Goddess as a celebration of Life. Cohen is Jewish, and so you can say "How can
we still sing Hallelujah after the Holocaust?"
And he wrestles with it, and he talks about well, "A cold and broken
Hallelujah." Sometimes life breaks us
and things get really tough and take us down, but still we're here to sing Hallelujah. And the song is so powerful because it really
is a hymn. It's really a spiritual
mantra, because he repeats the word hallelujah fifty-four [54] times in that
song. He takes us through the burdens of
living, but still how, as he says "Even though I've made a lot of mistakes, I
will stand before my Lord of Song at the end and sing Hallelujah."
And I think that
says a lot about the real meaning of Spirituality. We are here to praise. We are here to say thank you and be reverent,
and to be able to sing Hallelujah even when life is tough. That's what religion should be teaching. The rest of it is details.
Rob Kall:
Now, you've written a lot about Christ Consciousness. What is that?
Matthew Fox:
Well, the Cosmic Christ, you know, Christianity really flies on two
wings: the historical Jesus, the person himself; he taught what he taught and
took on the Empires etc, and he was a mystic himself, an earth based mystic
from the wisdom tradition of Israel.
But, the second wing is the Cosmic Christ, and that is the unleashing of
the Christ Consciousness. In other
words, of the awareness of what Jesus said, "The kingdom of God in within you,
the kingdom of God is among you." The
awareness of the divine presence.
So the Cosmic
Christ is the divinity in every thing, in every being in the universe. John 1 of John's gospel says, "Christ is the
light in every being." In the East they
called this "The Buddha nature." The
Buddha nature is in trees, it's in stones, it's in the galaxies. It's the same thing as the Cosmic
Christ. It's a metaphor; it's an
archetype for the utter holiness of all beings, the sacredness of all
beings.
What's interesting
about the Jesus take on it, of course, is that it includes the wounds in all
things. That's what the crucifixion
tells us about, about suffering. And of
course, the Buddhas also talked about how every being undergoes suffering in
this world. So it's not just pure light,
it's also light with wounds. And it's an
invitation, therefore, to connect to others, and to realize the brilliance
inside all of us.
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