(CROSSTALK)
SCHAITBERGER: ... well, certainly, that there are scores of our members that still have not been accounted for.
But the point is...
MATTHEWS: You mean, if you were to dig through the dumps, to be very blunt about this-for people watching, I'm sorry, but this is a political charge you have got to deal with. You're saying, if you went through the dumps, you would find skeletons of people?
SCHAITBERGER: Unfortunately, there are remains that would be found in the dumps. And, unfortunately, there are remains that are still part of that site, and they were continued-we continued to be find them and discover them up until a few months ago.
The fact of the matter is...
MATTHEWS: What were they attempting to screen for those people, for their remains?
SCHAITBERGER: The fact of the matter is, Chris...
MATTHEWS: Would it have been doable?
SCHAITBERGER: The point is, though-I have got to make this point.
The point is that, when Rudy Giuliani decided to go from recovery to full excavation, it was within 24 hours after they recovered the $230 million of gold and silver bars in the Bank of Nova Scotia's vault. It was within 24 hours, eight weeks into that incident, that he decided that the incident was too dangerous for firefighters. That was what we protested...
(CROSSTALK)
MATTHEWS: What do you mean? I don't get this. What is the connection between finding $200 million in gold and stopping the search for bodies?
SCHAITBERGER: Because, in my opinion, it was more important for him find the gold than it was to continue to find and recover remains.
MATTHEWS: But he already found the gold.
SCHAITBERGER: No, he found the gold on October 31. And on November 1 is when he issued the order to remove the firefighters from their recovery mode.
SCHAITBERGER: ... well, certainly, that there are scores of our members that still have not been accounted for.
But the point is...
MATTHEWS: You mean, if you were to dig through the dumps, to be very blunt about this-for people watching, I'm sorry, but this is a political charge you have got to deal with. You're saying, if you went through the dumps, you would find skeletons of people?
The fact of the matter is...
MATTHEWS: What were they attempting to screen for those people, for their remains?
SCHAITBERGER: The fact of the matter is, Chris...
MATTHEWS: Would it have been doable?
SCHAITBERGER: The point is, though-I have got to make this point.
The point is that, when Rudy Giuliani decided to go from recovery to full excavation, it was within 24 hours after they recovered the $230 million of gold and silver bars in the Bank of Nova Scotia's vault. It was within 24 hours, eight weeks into that incident, that he decided that the incident was too dangerous for firefighters. That was what we protested...
(CROSSTALK)
MATTHEWS: What do you mean? I don't get this. What is the connection between finding $200 million in gold and stopping the search for bodies?
SCHAITBERGER: Because, in my opinion, it was more important for him find the gold than it was to continue to find and recover remains.
MATTHEWS: But he already found the gold.
SCHAITBERGER: No, he found the gold on October 31. And on November 1 is when he issued the order to remove the firefighters from their recovery mode.
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