SCHAITBERGER: The fact is, we do speak for our members. And the fact is that our members are more than concerned about the treatment of those that were lost on that day and the treatment of those...
MATTHEWS: Well, this will surprise a lot of people, Mr. Schaitberger.
Thank you very much, Harold Schaitberger-Harold. I'm from Philly. That's hardest thing to pronounce. Harold-not Howard-Harold Schaitberger, president of the International Union of Firefighters.
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