Rob Kall: Well,
let's talk about this a minute, because
I'm very interested in this upper echelon sociopathy, and so I'm curious:
assuming that somebody comes from a family that has wealth and the power to
erase some of the records, the power to influence schools so that a kid can
transfer to another school, have the records excised, or what have you, what
are some of the ways, the kind of useful behaviors that would be detectable or
to be looked for in people who are in the upper class?
Donald Black: You've
made a good point. I mean, how could you
tell, especially if they're being protected by their parents? One of the cases I highlight in my book was:
a guy named Alex Kelly came from a wealthy Connecticut family, escaped rape
charges, fled to Europe, and eventually came back and was convicted and
incarcerated. But his family was sending
him money in Europe, pretending that they didn't know where he was. He had a full history of misbehaviors, and
yet the family was covering up. I think
that's one of the things that we see in a lot of these wealthy families who
have someone they would probably refer to as a "Black Sheep Member": they cover
up. They have the money to do that. They have the influence. Now, other cases that I highlighted are -
Rob Kall:
(interjecting) But wait,
wait. What are some examples of the
kinds of things that they cover up?
Donald Black: Well, in
Kelly's case, getting high-price lawyers to represent him. I don't remember enough details about his
specific case, but another case I mentioned was William Kennedy Smith, who was
arrested for rape; and we know how wealthy and influential his family is. They stood behind him, obtained high-price
lawyers, etc. This is a pattern that you
see in these families. I suppose
families at the other end of the income spectrum might do exactly the same
thing, but they don't have the resources.
Rob Kall: So what
you might see (indirectly) is somebody who changed schools multiple times.
Donald Black: Yes;
changing schools or getting lawyers to cover up for them if they're accused of
committing a crime.
Rob Kall: Well
that's what they might do, but you probably wouldn't see that if you were
trying to research them - their lawyers that covered them up. (laughs) Right?
Donald Black: No, no, I
think you're right. One of the things
that you probably would see is changing school districts - or quitting one
college, starting up another. And then
if you start digging behind that, you'd see what some of the motivations
underlying that were.
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