Ethan McCord: No, he has not. This is also the same battalion commander who was the ExO of Pat Tillman, who got on ESPN and said--
Cindy Sheehan: Oooooh.
Ethan McCord:--said that he was worm dirt because his family didn't believe in God.
Cindy Sheehan: Right. Wow.
Ethan McCord: Yeah. Same guy. Yeah, he had a lot of--
Cindy Sheehan: That's been happening--
Ethan McCord: What's that?
Cindy Sheehan: That happens a lot. That's been happening from the beginning of time, where officers, you know, willingly put the people who are under them in harm's way to advance their own careers.
Ethan McCord: Oh, definitely.
Cindy Sheehan: Yeah.
Ethan McCord: You see it all the time. There were certain things that we did in Iraq where you were just like, you know, this is uncalled for, this is unnecessary, and why are we doing this? You know, our battalion commander came out to the COP after a few of our soldiers had been killed by an IED, and he said that he wanted a new SOP, which is a standard operating procedure, that, you know, 360-degree rotational fire every time you get hit by an IED, kill every person on the street.
Cindy Sheehan: Yeah, I've heard about that too. And so, let's get back to what happened on that day. And you are yourself, you're a father, right?
Ethan McCord: Right, yes. I--
Cindy Sheehan: You have children.
Ethan McCord: I'm sorry?
Cindy Sheehan: You have children.
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