So, after telling the story of the White Rose as I just told you, with music, photographs and suspenseful storytelling, Part Two is about, are there any White Roses around, as I call them, in the world today? Are there any people who are not bystanders but upstanders in this world filled with oppression and abuse, who dare to risk themselves the way the White Rose did for freedom and our shared humanity? And then I give an array of, from all cultures and places abroad but also here in the United States, where people are standing up and risking themselves, whether it's from being executed or maybe risking being absolutely shunned by all of your neighbors in the United States because you're taking a very unpopular position. Or being a student! Kids in high school who speak out against the--you know, high schools are dens of conformity, and they're really horrible. So anyone who speaks out becomes ostracized or bullied, and bullying is a terrible thing now.
So, yeah, I relate them to today, and then after I do that I end up with Pete Seeger's wonderful song, "Your Thoughts Are Free," "Die Gedanken Sind Frei," which was actually a German freedom song that the White Rose were deeply inspired by, and Pete Seeger recorded that song in English translation in 1962 on an album called Dangerous Songs that he was able to make only after the McCarthy era blacklist was lifted for him.
So that sort of pulls together Nazi Germany, oppressive regimes, the past, the present, whether you're under the Taliban or whether you're living in the United States and have to open your eyes to things that the mainstream media doesn't want us to know, that our political leaders don't want us to see and hear. Yeah. So that's how I try to pull it together.
But yes, the White Rose were facing the biggest punishment, which was execution by beheading.
Cindy Sheehan: Right. Well--
Jud Newborn: Yes, please go on.
Cindy Sheehan: I'm sorry, Jud, unfortunately we're out of time, and you've given a lot of information in the short time that we were able to have you on, but tell my listeners how they can get more information about your book and about your performance.
Jud Newborn: Well, if people want to find out everything about both the book and the lecture performances, they can google me by googling Golden Land Jud Newborn--that's my lecture agent, Golden Land Jud Newborn. You can also google me, http://www.JudNewborn.com--that's one D, like the Judds but one D, and Newborn like a newborn baby. Or e-mail me at jnewbo@optonline.net. So that's how they can get to me. And you can find out about the book, you can go to Amazon.com. And I have a new animated film project which I can't tell you about, but it's also about linking the Holocaust and the oppression of children then to depression of children everywhere around the world of all backgrounds in the 21st Century.
Cindy Sheehan: Well, we'll also--we'll also put your information linkup to CindySheehansSoapbox too when we, you know, what do you call that, promote the show.
Jud Newborn: That's true.
Cindy Sheehan: So, anyway, you gave us a lot of great information in the short time we have, so you know maybe we can have you on again in the future and we can get more deeply into the subject. But thank you so much, Jud, for being on Cindy Sheehan's Soapbox today.
Jud Newborn: Oh, you're welcome, Cindy, and I'm looking forward to your new documentary as soon as it comes out.
Cindy Sheehan: Awesome. We'll talk to you soon, I'm sure. Thank you.
Jud Newborn: You're welcome.
Cindy Sheehan: That was Dr. Jud Newborn talking about the White Rose Society in Nazi Germany.
Well, that's the show for today. I'd like to thank you for listening to Cindy Sheehan's Soapbox. I'd like to not only thank you but encourage you to get off your keister and do more for peace, to do more for justice. There's so much peace and justice that are needed in the world today. As always, I'd like to thank my engineer, Scott Petty, my webmaster Rich Bowser, my producer Mikey, you for listening, and my guests for being on the show. Don't forget to go to their websites and to check out more information about what they shared with us today. We'll talk to you next week when my guest will be none other than Tommy Chong from Cheech and Chong. This is Cindy Sheehan. You've been listening to Cindy Sheehan's Soapbox.
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