Rob Kall: Seems like there is.. you write in your last chapter, about the story of the American Dream, but it seems like it depends also heavily upon legislation. Does that? And getting laws to be enforced?
James Steele: Yes. And [Jim Steele Here] obviously it would require a shift in Congress, needless to say in fact. As an intro though, almost [inaudible 30:25]
Rob Kall: More of a volcanic explosion or a major earthquake?
Donald Barlett: Yes.
James Steele: Yes. [laughing] You'd have something on that calibre, that would perhaps wake people up just to what's going on. In fact we speculate, that maybe things are just going to have to get a lot worse before anything might be done, but there was some Senator recently, who is no longer in the Senate, who was asked if he missed Congress. And he said yes he did, but he didn't miss this Congress. Because of the [Rob laughing in background] kinds of problems that this much is foisting on the country. So, and there's a lot of people know, and we encountered around the country an awful lot of what we would call self-help groups. I spent some time with some veterans down in Florida who were very upset at what's going on at the national level. They're say the problem is that the deficit, the problem is we're not figuring out ways to get this country going again. And what they're trying to do, is within their limited means and within what's within their grasp, they're trying to figure out some small industries, some small non-profit enterprises that can provide some work and provide some opportunity. It's like they've given up on Washington for the simplest kinds of things that the government is to be able to do. So a lot of people know or are trying to do things like this. We think that's great, but we feel though that ultimately you've still got to have some things at a national level though, because we are a national country. It's a national economy. And unless we figure out some ways to stimulate that and to create jobs, all of these other efforts, while a help, are still going to fall short.
Rob Kall: Do you see that on the horizon with the current Congress and the candidates running in this election cycle, that they have any intention at all of doing anything for the middle class?
Donald Barlett: Oh.
Rob Kall: A handful of people, maybe like Frank Sanders and Sherrod Brown. [James inaudible in the background] A couple of others?
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