M.S.: Essentially sensorimotor rhythm. It was when you go back to the 70s when the first studies were on ADHD or ADD at a time, it's the deregulation and the sensorimotor rhythm and theta which is essentially associated with inattention that was the first brain deregulation that people found. So that's way back in the 70s but it's still something that we look at.
Rob: Ok, I just wanted to make it understandable. So these different these clusters -- anxiety, emotional deregulation, high frontal alpha, a form of ADD associated with the SMR. I think you also mentioned about depression too, right? They all are if somebody has any of them they're going to be more at risk for developing iTech addiction right?
M.S.: Anybody has a liability that's the cluster that I find unilaterally across the board in my studies of individuals who use Internet accessibility. Now in my profession we talk a lot about liability meaning people who knock on our door, they knock on our doors for a reason. They need help. They already are what we refer to as symptomatic. They already have a depression or they already have anxiety or an addiction. But there are a lot of people walking around out there, arguably with the same brainwave signatures, that don't come to us that are just fine. And these are what we talk about liability and if we look at all of the literature on epigenetics. So whenever we talk about breast cancer or addiction, you need essentially a genetic liability and an environmental trigger. Essentially the issue will not manifest or the illness will not manifest unless you have both, and what I'm finding is individuals with the liability signature, obviously, are a lot more prone because the environmental trigger is excess use of the Internet or iTechnologies. So essentially somebody who has a higher state of arousal in general is not an active insomniac or does not have anxiety, if they engage with the Internet too much, it will make it bloom essentially.
Rob: Ok, now just another piece here there's a line I want to quote from you. You talk about the only fundamental difference between drive and addiction is outcome.
M.S.: Yes, that's a perfect lead into what I was talking about which is, I talk a lot with parents about the concept of direction versus correction. Majority of professionals have a little bit of, we used to talk about addictive personalities years ago, there's a little bit of that component. You have to have a little bit of an obsessive nature to be able to get to law school, to be able to get through med school, athletes as well. This is an example that I use in my book. If you look at any individual that makes it to the Olympics, chances are they have the "addiction" signature. But it was flipped into what I refer to as drive, or with parents what I call direction. So essentially this is what we've been doing for years and it's a difference between those who succeed and don't succeed whether it's environment or parenting, coaches, but just the culture, the situation directs a child or holds their hand so that this brain wave signature or feature of them can bloom into something positive as opposed to something that could drag them down.
Rob: So are you saying that people who make it to law school or the Olympics they have a similar brain wave signature of people who are addicts?
M.S.: I'm finding that a lot in athletics, yes.
Rob: Not so much in high achiever academics?