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Present Shock- Interview with Douglas Rushkoff; on Conspiracy theories, Preppers and the end of story

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Douglas Rushkoff's book, Present Shock offers a guide an explanations to the ways that the new technologies and media have drastically changed the way we relate with time, narrative, story, multitasking, relating to others, work and a lot more. He describes Presentism, Presentists, Fractalnoia and some ways of understanding our changing culture that are eye-openingly useful.
It discussed how we are developing a different relationship to time and to our experience of the world-- how digital distractions and interruptions have affected the way we go into the world... and it discusses how to protect ourselves.
it discusses conspiracy theories, how the fractal and connected nature of the web produces Fractalnoia-- a state that makes us willing to accept all kinds of theories.
While this book is a book that makes you think, it also provides ideas that are very practical and applicable to business, to writing, to running websites and even relationships.
Douglas Rushkoff bio (from wikipedia):

Is an American media theorist, writer, columnist, lecturer, graphic novelist and documentarian. He is best known for his association with the early cyberpunk culture, and his advocacy of open source solutions to social problems.

Rushkoff is most frequently regarded as a media theorist, and known for coining terms and concepts including viral media (or media virus), digital native, and social currency.

He has written ten books on media, technology, and culture. He wrote the first syndicated column on cyberculture for The New York Times Syndicate, as well as regular columns for The Guardian of London, Arthur, Discover,[4] and the online magazines Daily Beast, and meeting industry magazine One+.

Rushkoff currently teaches in the Media Studies department at The New School University in Manhattan.

Very rough interview notes-- mostly my questions.
These notes are aimed at tantalizing you into listening to the audio podcast.

What is present shock?


IDea of book is to take a step back, patience, Press pause, we have time for this. 

You've listed five different kinds of Present Shock. Can you list them?

Narrative collapse: When people stop looking to the future they start looking at the present. How does produce narrative collapse

HOw does this apply to the American dream, to democracy, to the protest movement and activism.

What you're saying is that for 1000s of years story defined who we were and how things work.. and now you're saying that this has changed. 

Why  is that individual sports are coming up while baseball and football are dropping?

Can you tie the sports to the change in the narrative pattern?

 Can you talk about what we're transitioning to, from the more traditional narrative stories.  

           a presentist narrative style.

Advice to writers on using presentist narrative style

      Zadie Smith  two others. JONATHAN LETHEM

Is it possible to adapt a presentist narrative approach to the hero's journey?

What do you mean voluntary vs. captive?

You quote Aristotle saying, "When the storytelling in a culture goes bad the result is decadence." Have the stories gone bad and is the result decadence?


How does this apply to the web-- you're talking about interaction, not passive recipients

Content management system creators? Are the ones who enable people to be participating?


Call waiting as disruption/interruption from an analog connection with someone. 

And now, we have all these many ways that distract us and keep us from committing to the present. 

And it seems to me that it leads to a change in our values. 

quote 998

YOu talk about clocks and biological clocks. 

Chronos and Kairos--

Can you talk about fractalnoia and conspiracy theory?

Quote 2682-- How do we assess potential conspiracy theories?

How do your respond to people who say there is evidence?

You talk about the commons and fractal pattern recognition,,,

quote 3242 At least in the fractal-- one's relationships matter more than one's accumulated. 

Chapter Apocalypto and please explain your ideas on preppers

A wealthy Russian dot com millionaire has assembled a team to produce a technology that will human consciousness to a "substrate" that will be easily reparable, so people can live forever, with a target date of 2045. How will people be different in 2045 and what will end up being downloaded?

What is the difference between what they think they can upload and what you think they can't upload.

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Rob Kall is an award winning journalist, inventor, software architect, connector and visionary. His work and his writing have been featured in the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, CNN, ABC, the HuffingtonPost, Success, Discover and other media. 

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He is the author of The Bottom-up Revolution; Mastering the Emerging World of Connectivity  

He's given talks and workshops to Fortune 500 execs and national medical and psychological organizations, and pioneered first-of-their-kind conferences in Positive Psychology, Brain Science and Story. He hosts some of the world's smartest, most interesting and powerful people on his Bottom Up Radio Show, and founded and publishes one of the top Google- ranked progressive news and opinion sites,

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Rob Kall has spent his adult life as an awakener and empowerer-- first in the field of biofeedback, inventing products, developing software and a music recording label, MuPsych, within the company he founded in 1978-- Futurehealth, and founding, organizing and running 3 conferences: Winter Brain, on Neurofeedback and consciousness, Optimal Functioning and Positive Psychology (a pioneer in the field of Positive Psychology, first presenting workshops on it in 1985) and Storycon Summit Meeting on the Art Science and Application of Story-- each the first of their kind.  Then, when he found the process of raising people's consciousness and empowering them to take more control of their lives  one person at a time was too slow, he founded which has been the top search result on Google for the terms liberal news and progressive opinion for several years. Rob began his Bottom-up Radio show, broadcast on WNJC 1360 AM to Metro Philly, also available on iTunes, covering the transition of our culture, business and world from predominantly Top-down (hierarchical, centralized, authoritarian, patriarchal, big)  to bottom-up (egalitarian, local, interdependent, grassroots, archetypal feminine and small.) Recent long-term projects include a book, Bottom-up-- The Connection Revolution, debillionairizing the planet and the Psychopathy Defense and Optimization (more...)

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