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May 3, 2008 at 00:12:43

Why only Obama can beat McCain

by Steven Leser     Page 1 of 1 page(s)

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The race for the Democratic Presidential nomination is coming to a close. Senator Hillary Clinton is so far behind that it is almost impossible to envision a scenario where she gets the necessary delegates to become the nominee. She and her surrogates are trying to make the argument that only she can beat McCain. The story goes that Wright and all the related stories mean that middle class white voters will not vote for Obama. It’s a good line, but is it true?

There are several major Democratic constituencies. For a Democrat to win the White House, they have to win each of these constituencies convincingly. Those constituencies are Women, Jews, African Americans and the Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual and Transgender community. There are important constituencies beyond these, but if a Democrat cannot win those four core constituencies, they are finished. Hillary and Obama each represent the first ever viable candidate for one of the four core constituencies and thus have the lion’s share of support from that particular constituency. The main danger of this race for both candidates is that while they embody a huge step forward for women and African Americans, attacking each other may alienate their opponent’s core constituency.

Here one sees the genius of Barack Obama’s campaign strategy. Critics say he isn’t fighting back hard enough against the tactics of the Clinton campaign, but what would be the result? All we have to do to find the answer to that is to look at the results of Hillary’s strategy. Hillary’s attacks against Obama, the use of Wright and her bringing up Farrakhan’s name as the ultimate bogeyman has completely turned off the African American community to her candidacy. African American’s, who consistently vote for Democrats over Republicans by 4-1 margins in General elections, will not vote for Hillary Clinton. It only takes about five minutes talking to African Americans in any town or major city to realize this. Hillary has no chance of bringing them around. Their anger toward her goes far beyond the normal feelings toward the opponent in any race for the nomination. Here in New York City, in Harlem, anger in the Black community at Hillary and former President Bill Clinton has reached such a boiling point that a movement is underway to force the former President to move his offices out of Harlem. Obama’s New York supporters are already talking about trying to get behind someone like Hillary’s former opponent for the Democratic senatorial nomination in New York, Jonathan Tasini, to run against her in 2012 should she fail to win the nomination and/or Presidency. African Americans are finished with the Clintons for the near future. It will take a serious effort over a period of at least three to five years just to start to repair that damage.

Contrast that with Senator Obama. Obama has done nothing to Hillary that would inflame Hillary’s core constituency of white women. Some of Senator Clinton’s supporters talk as if they would not support Obama in the General Election, but if you spend time listening to them, they have no real anger toward Senator Obama. There is nothing there beyond the normal feelings you have toward the person who rivals your chosen candidate for the Democratic nomination. Why would there be? One is hard pressed to come up with any example where he has personally attacked Hillary. Obama can easily bring this constituency back around to support him once he is the nominee.

Obama’s position has been and will always be that he is not going to make personally attacks on fellow Democrats; the idea is to fight and beat the Republicans. Obama has said that when it comes to the general election, he will fight as hard as is necessary to beat his opponent. Even there, it is Obama’s hope that the fight will be centered on the issues. If necessary, there is ammunition against McCain that can be used. Obama’s point though is well taken. Is that really what the American people want? Obama represents a paradigm shift in politics. Strategy or no strategy, I don’t know many politicians that would have had the discipline to force their campaign to stay positive and not engage in reciprocal attacks given the Clinton onslaught. There are personal issues one could use to attack Hillary.

Let’s talk about those issues. Hillary and her campaign say that Wright, Rezco and Ayers will be the GOP talking points against Obama. How do they think Tuzla is going to play? Hillary is on record on three or four occasions as saying she was under sniper fire when she flew into Tuzla, Bosnia to visit the troops there. The only problem is, there is video of her landing and coming out onto the tarmac for a relaxed photo op with a Bosnian child. Chelsea is also with her, Hillary and Chelsea look relaxed, and not the least bit concerned for their safety. Hillary later apologized for misleading people about that trip, but we all know that her apology will not be enough to stop GOP attacks on her about it. It is even worse that Hillary lied about being under fire considering that her potential GOP opponent was a Prisoner Of War in Vietnam. That is a contrast that is about as ugly as it gets. Then of course there is the allegations the RNC already has said it will use of the Clintons accepting campaign financing by a Chinese spy ring, see http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0807/RNC_Pushing_the_China_angle.html . You can see from the abundance of major newspaper citations at the bottom of this article that there is a mountain of evidence to which the RNC can point that suggests wrongdoing and the same campaign finance staff that were around for Bill’s campaigns is on Hillary’s fundraising team. Of course, the RNC will bring up impeachment and Bill’s philandering but there will be an interesting edge to it. The RNC will say that Hillary pushed the guilt by association angle with Wright so why if she would stop attending a church presided by a Pastor who says crazy things would she stay married to someone with the moral issues of Bill? Isn’t that a fair question to ask given that Hillary and her campaign have given the OK to guilt by association? Yes, Hillary has unwittingly opened herself up to that attack. Shouldn't we be concerned about the scandal known as Travelgate? According to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travelgate article in Wikipedia:

It began in May 1993, when seven longtime employees of the White House Travel Office were fired, after a brief investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The White House said the action was due to financial improprieties in the office operation. Critics said the actions were done to allow friends of the Clintons to take over the travel business and that the involvement of the FBI was unwarranted. Heavy media attention forced the White House to reinstate most of the employees in other jobs and remove the Clinton associates from the travel role.
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In 1998 Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr exonerated President Bill Clinton of any involvement in the matter. In 2000 Independent Counsel Robert Ray issued his final report on Travelgate, stating that Hillary Clinton had made factually false statements but saying there was insufficient evidence to prosecute her.
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On July 3, 1993, the White House issued its own "strikingly self-critical" 80-page report on the firings. Co-written by Chief of Staff McLarty, it criticized five White House officials, included McLarty himself, Watkins, Kennedy, Cornelius, and another, for dismissing the Travel Office members improperly, for appearing to pressure the FBI into its involvement, and for allowing friends of the Clintons to become involved in a matter they had a business stake in.

If you read the rest of that Wikipedia article, you see that the Republicans have a very negative spin on this that would be at least partially supported by Prosecutor Robert Ray’s findings that Hillary lied during the investigations about various things regarding Travel gate.

Those four major issues, Tuzla-gate, China-gate, Monica-gate and Travel-gate would be only the start of what the Republicans would throw at Hillary Clinton. There is much more. Hillary’s issues are much more serious than having had a crazy pastor or having known people who did bad things. Hillary’s supporters like to claim that she has been vetted but she absolutely has not been vetted. It is only Obama’s discipline and pledge not to attack fellow Democrats that has prevented these serious issues from dominating the race for the nomination. It also is more interesting to view things like Rush Limbaugh asking his supporters to vote for Clinton in primaries in light of the things we know the GOP intend to use against her. The RNC is confident they can beat her and they want her to be the nominee so badly they are willing to do just about anything to help that happen.

When the Superdelegates decide whom they are going to support, if electability factors into their decision at all, they should consider the constituencies and who can unite those constituencies and the party. Is Hillary the candidate to choose when, as the result of how she has conducted her campaign, she has hopelessly alienated the African American community? Or is Obama, who alienates no one and reaches out to everyone, the candidate to choose? Then they should think about which one of the candidates really has the baggage that would do them serious harm. When all of those items are analyzed, I think the choice to nominate Barack Obama is obvious.

 

Steven Leser specializes in Politics, Science & Health, and Entertainment topics. He has held positions within the Democratic Party including District Chair and Public Relations Chair within county organizations. Steven Leser writes for www.opednews.com, an internet only media site that has grown to become one of the highest traffic news sites in America, reaching more traffic, according to alexa.com, than all but the thirty largest daily newspapers in the US. Mr. Leser is one of the 500+ liberal pundits who, each month, are published in what has become one of the top five Liberal/progressive media sites in the US.

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Writer. Los Angeles, CA
Marta BarbosaWriter. Los Angeles, CA

Hillary's Nemesis

RE: "Hillary’s attacks against Obama, the use of Wright and her bringing up Farrakhan’s name as the ultimate bogeyman has completely turned off the African American community to her candidacy."

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"Nemesis was the Greek goddess of vengeance. She also went after people who became too arrogant, who were so taken with themselves that they lost all prudence... I believe she's arrived. I think she's sitting around waiting for her moment, the one we're coming up on right now."
-----------Chalmers Johnson

Hillary's arrogance and hypocrisy has turned off far more than African Americans. It's turned off anyone- old or young, male or female, gay or straight, Black, White, Native American, Asian, or Latino- who despises hypocritical behavior.

Bill and Hillary had ZERO problem inviting Rev. Wright to the White House to advise them about their marriage during the Lewinsky scandal.

I keep hoping a major journalist will grill Hillary about those meetings, but no one has. Wonder why?

by Marta Barbosa (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 7 comments) on Monday, May 5, 2008 at 12:55:54 AM
 


Writer. Los Angeles, CA
Marta BarbosaWriter. Los Angeles, CA

hero worship

This "hero worship" for McCain is unbelievable! He must have a great PR guy.

A hero is courageous and sacrifices him/herself for the greater good.

McCain sat in the cockpit of a powerful plane and, feeling like god, rained death and destruction on defenseless villagers in a country that has never attacked us!

The only hero of the Vietnam war was Chief Warrant Officer Hugh Thompson, who managed to rescue the survivors of the My Lai massacre before Lt. Calley and Ernesto Medina were able to finish them off.

McCain didn't even throw himself on a grenade to save other Americans. He was a lousy pilot who screwed up and got shot down in an immoral war.

That's not heroic, that's incompetent. But then, as we have seen, incompetence will get you very far politics.

by Marta Barbosa (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 7 comments) on Monday, May 5, 2008 at 1:13:39 AM
 


Midwesterner, veteran of VietNam era naval service, I still feel an obligation to defend the Constitution against "all enemies, foreign and domestic."
John Sanchez Jr.Midwesterner, veteran of VietNam era naval service, I still feel an obligation to defend the Constitution against "all enemies, foreign and domestic."

It emerged yesterday, that Mickey Kantor is a problem...

being featured in a YouTube posted video called "The War Room" with George Stephanopolous and James Carville while campaigning 15 years ago, as he uttered a most horrible slander about people from Indiana. He was questioned about what he said in the video, and came up with two stories, one, that the video was doctored, and two, that what he said was a non sequiter about "How would you like to be in the White House now?" Both are clearly BS.

The question for HIllary is, "Why didn't you disassociate yourself (repudiate, reject and the rest of the usual Hillary required verbage) from Mickey Kantor 15 years ago, the way you would have left a Reverend Wright church?"

by John Sanchez Jr. (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 646 comments) on Saturday, May 3, 2008 at 6:55:03 AM
 


I do have writing credits in a major newspaper--long ago.
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Marilyn FrithI do have writing credits in a major newspaper--long ago.
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video debunked very quickly

Politico online and MSNBC said tape was altered.  Why would anyone believe it unless they are hard-pressed to make excuses for Obama?  And even if it were real (and it isn't), why is something uttered in a private conversation umpteen years ago by a Hillary associate relevant in this campaign?  Well, because it can be a hammer to Hillary's head.

I have read BO supporters' chat boards alive with glee that this has surfaced just before the last two critical Dem primaries--IN and NC.  The tape slurs both blacks and poor whites...a brilliant stroke of political dirty tricks, a la Karl Rove.  Why so easily duped?

by Marilyn Frith (6 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 191 comments) on Sunday, May 4, 2008 at 8:40:59 AM
 


A proud gay man
fouA proud gay man

The Director of the War Room

The Director himself said that the You Tube videos were altered versions of his film. He does not endorse them at all.

by fou (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 82 comments) on Saturday, May 3, 2008 at 2:13:21 PM
 


American educator and blogger currently residing in the Dominican Republic.
RHMAmerican educator and blogger currently residing in the Dominican Republic.

2 questions

(1) What percentage of democratic voters does the GLBT community make up? I understand blacks, women etc. are large groups that can make or break a democratic candidate. Is the GLBT crowd that influential? I'm just curious.

(2) And this is more of an observation than a question. Stay away from using Wikipedia as an official source. It's ok for finding facts quickly, but it can be unreliable. There are plenty of articles from reputable news sites about Travelgate. Again, just an observation. I enjoyed the article.

RHM

www.thecandidacy.com

by RHM (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 7 comments) on Saturday, May 3, 2008 at 7:42:09 AM
 


A proud gay man
fouA proud gay man

GLBT Voters

We make up a sizeable portion of the public -- numbers in the general population run anywhere from 10% to 15% and that may be only the tip of the iceberg since many people refuse to identify as gay/lesbian for reasons of fear of family.  (Conservative groups such as the Family Research Council and othrs have tried to claimn that we are only 3% - 7% of the population but their so-called studies are as flawed as their thinking/studies on numerous other topics for which they have an agenda.)

GLBT people are also voters and in large cities they make up an even larger group of the electorate.

Hillary has always been a strong supporter of GLBT issues (and I know that some will bring up the DOMA and DADT items but both have explanations that are reasonable and that most gay/lesbian people understand and which I can explain if you want).

BO on the other hand has not been at all comfortable with gay/lesbian people and admitted as much on TV. He refuses to grant interviews with local gay papers such as the Phialdelphia Gay News, he continues to employ anti-gay people as part of his campaign (McClurkin and Meeks are just two), and he generally gives only lip service to gay issues. (No pun intended.) He has not been there for the community.

I called his campaign to ask if he would stop employing anti-gay speakers and surrogates and they flatly said "No."

So, especially in Blue States, GLBT voters can make a difference. Hence the avid courting of the GLBT vote by many politicians.

by fou (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 82 comments) on Saturday, May 3, 2008 at 2:25:46 PM
 


Nature Photographer
Sean McMNature Photographer

Wishful Thinking article.............

OBAMA has exercised POOR JUDGMENT, over and over! 

Only Clinton can hold her own with Mc Cain.......get over it! 

 

by Sean McM (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 2 comments) on Saturday, May 3, 2008 at 8:30:27 AM
 


SW Texas ultra-liberal
john riggsSW Texas ultra-liberal

Only Diebold tm. can beat anybody

Steve, why are we beating this poor dead horse (donkey) to death. The repug machine owns the game,and Hillary is the repug choice for president,period. As we chat here so enjoyably, Cheney is organizing the transition of power back to the Clinton dynasty, I can see it clearly, I am channelling Vince Foster and he wants all his boxes of records back that Hillary swiped from My office on the day she stuck the knife in My back. She was a lousy lover too, always trying to be the man. I have to go now, I am trying to get the feuhrer to tell me where the gold is stashed.

by john riggs (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 299 comments) on Saturday, May 3, 2008 at 9:10:44 AM
 


My name is John Cornsilk,
I am Married, same lady 52 years. I am a Cherokee Citizen of the United Cherokee Nation (UCN) Also a member of the United Keetoowah band of Cherokee Indians in Oklahoma (UKB),and a member of the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma (CNO)
I live in Tahlequah Oklahoma, the Capital of the Cherokee Nation, also the home of the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma, who are illegally acting as the Cherokee Nation.

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John CornsilkMy name is John Cornsilk,
I am Married, same lady 52 years. I am a Cherokee Citizen of the United Cherokee Nation (UCN) Also a member of the United Keetoowah band of Cherokee Indians in Oklahoma (UKB),and a member of the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma (CNO)
I live in Tahlequah Oklahoma, the Capital of the Cherokee Nation, also the home of the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma, who are illegally acting as the Cherokee Nation.

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Omitted Factor!!

The most important factor is not even mentioned (The Redneck Factor), and you better believe it is STILL quite prevalent in the country, and this BS is what the repugs want you to believe...

 I will not be surprised if in the end it is proven Obam's rise to fame is re-pug controled and driven, this nation may be about ready to acept a woman leader, but a black man NOT yet, maybe never, a Native American maybe if s/he is not too dark-skined, example! One Brad Carson, an ex.US congressman, and a card toting member of the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma.

John Cornsilk

Cherokee Citizen

by John Cornsilk (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 9 comments) on Saturday, May 3, 2008 at 8:57:29 AM
 


Retired public school teacher in Brooklyn, New York, and activist in the educational reform movement. Retired in 1996, I am now 67. Currently working for Corporate Campaign, Inc. and the Campaign to Stop Killer Coke. Married to a college professor who is a union activist. I have two sons, one a rock musician and producer and the other a lawyer. I am a member of Vets for Peace having served in the army reserves from 1961 to 1967.
LewRetired public school teacher in Brooklyn, New York, and activist in the educational reform movement. Retired in 1996, I am now 67. Currently working for Corporate Campaign, Inc. and the Campaign to Stop Killer Coke. Married to a college professor who is a union activist. I have two sons, one a rock musician and producer and the other a lawyer. I am a member of Vets for Peace having served in the army reserves from 1961 to 1967.

A Potential Problem for Obama: Sam Nunn

A potential problem for Obama in the general election, if he wins the nomination, is former Sen. Sam Nunn.

The following is from the newsletter of the Campaign to Stop Killer Coke (http://www.KillerCoke.org):
 
"Obama, Sam Nunn, Coke, Chevron & GE
 
"The media has been suggesting that Senator Barack Obama might choose former Sen. Sam Nunn (D-Ga.) as his vice presidential candidate if Obama wins the Democratic Party's nomination for president of the United States. That would be a grave mistake! Sam Nunn sits of the boards of at least three of the most abusive corporations in the world – The Coca-Cola Co., Chevron and General Electric.
 
"We don't have to explain to readers of this newsletter (www.KillerCoke.org), the labor, human rights and environmental abuses committed by Coke, but Chevron has been also accused of abuses around the world (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cER8CjI7wdY), the most infamous are those committed against the indigenous people of Ecuador. And General Electric is a major defense contractor, paying huge settlements for defrauding the defense department (http://www.multinationalmonitor.org/mm2001/01july-august/julyaug01corp4.html)." 
 
See Campaign to Stop Killer Coke Newsletter:(http://www.ymlp.com/pubarchive_show_message.php?stopkillercoke+288):

At least 49 colleges have removed Coke products from their campuses because of the company's labor, human rights and environmental abuses worldwide. Nunn, as a member of Coke's board of directors, has never spoken out against such abuses. Many students at these schools would find it difficult to vote for a member of the board of directors of Coca-Cola. In addition, some of the largest labor unions are involved in the boycott of Coke, including NYSUT, UFT, California Federation of Teachers, PSC-CUNY, UUP, SEIU...
 
Sam Nunn remains on all these boards. Nunn, as Obama's running mate, however, would be a signal that Obama has been bought by corporate America.  Such a decision by the Obama campaign to run Nunn for VP could be interpreted that his campaign does not take labor, human rights and environmental issues seriously.

by Lew (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments) on Saturday, May 3, 2008 at 9:13:26 AM
 


Gregg Gordon is a writer, musician, activist, and otherwise ne'er-do-well in Columbus, Ohio.


"Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little." - Edmund Burke

Gregg GordonGregg Gordon is a writer, musician, activist, and otherwise ne'er-do-well in Columbus, Ohio.


"Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little." - Edmund Burke

Little ahead of yourself, I think

I'd be very surprised if Nunn is Obama's choice for his running mate.  He didn't have that much name recognition when he was a powerful Senator and has even less now.  He's been out of politics for a decade -- I can't remember the last time I saw him on the tube.  And I doubt if he'd be interested in the pay cut in any event.

by Gregg Gordon (20 articles, 41 quicklinks, 13 diaries, 174 comments) on Saturday, May 3, 2008 at 9:50:06 AM
 


Having lived six decades now, I've had a lot of experiences! Grew up in a family often oppressed because of our faith - we stood for peace and against war, and for the rights of all regardless of ethnic background. Active from youth in peace and civil rights. Vietnam-era draft resister. Worked for a while for peace and social justice groups, and then became a civil servant. Felt a call to a consistent life ethic, and am currently serving as President of Consistent Life. All this is out of Chr...

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Bill SamuelHaving lived six decades now, I've had a lot of experiences! Grew up in a family often oppressed because of our faith - we stood for peace and against war, and for the rights of all regardless of ethnic background. Active from youth in peace and civil rights. Vietnam-era draft resister. Worked for a while for peace and social justice groups, and then became a civil servant. Felt a call to a consistent life ethic, and am currently serving as President of Consistent Life. All this is out of Chr...

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Electable

It is still not clear what would wind up on the electability issue.  The tracking polls were showing that Obama would do better than Clinton against McCain, but recent ones have begun showing the opposite.

Clinton does have a lot of negatives, some of which have not really surfaced in the primary campaign.  How much traction they would have during the general election is hard to figure.  But already her negative rating is so high that it makes victory seem unlikely for her.  It's difficult to see how she could reduce that.

I do think that electing an African-American is still a big hurdle for many white Americans, and there is really nothing like it for women, IMHO.  There are a lot who would vote for an African-American who looked squeaky clean and safe, but who retain a substantial amount of racial prejudice.  Obama did look squeaky clean, and I think the fact that he has no African-American heritage makes the race thing something less of a factor, but it can take very little for that background racial prejudice to kick in.  The Jeremiah Wright thing may be a little thing, but it still could be significant in this instance.

The Jeremiah Wright thing was probably a no-win situation for Obama.  If he had remained loyal to his pastor, in some eyes that would have been seen as proof that he's really an extremist not the moderate image he poses and his voting record shows.  But by his vicious and dishonest attacks on his pastor to whom he appeared close for two decades raises deep questions as well.  For one, it shows him to be an opportunist, a typical politician not the different type he has worked so carefully to paint himself as.  And it raises real questions about him for African-Americans and progressives.

McCain has some real negatives, but the war hero thing tends to trump such negatives.  So he may be the real favorite, even though circumstances make this what sjhould be a Democratic year.

The running mates can be an important factor in an otherwise close election.  And we simply don't know who they will be at this point. 

by Bill Samuel (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 147 comments) on Saturday, May 3, 2008 at 12:47:27 PM
 


I'll get to this later.
Aaron AaronsI'll get to this later.

McCain: War Criminal, not "War Hero"

"McCain has some real negatives, but the war hero thing tends to trump such negatives."

John McCain went half way around the world to drop bombs on people in their own country. After 23 criminal "missions", and hundreds or even thousands of deaths to his "credit", he was finally, thankfully, shot down.

The real war heroes on the U.S. side were soldiers and sailors who refused to fight, carried out acts of sabotage, or -- best of all! -- killed their officers.

As for McCain, the Vietnamese should have shot him as a war criminal. The world would be a (slightly) better place if they had done so.

by Aaron Aarons (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 5 comments) on Saturday, May 3, 2008 at 7:10:14 PM
 


I do have writing credits in a major newspaper--long ago.
Currently, I write for online political boards with a
definite liberal bias. Proud parent, grandparent and
aspiring poet and novelist. I never stopped aspiring.
Finally managed to earn a BA degree in communications/ American lit. Love romantic fiction that also stretches
the intellectual muscles. And am mad about romantic
Russian composers. I take life seriously but tend to
look at it with a healt...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Marilyn FrithI do have writing credits in a major newspaper--long ago.
Currently, I write for online political boards with a
definite liberal bias. Proud parent, grandparent and
aspiring poet and novelist. I never stopped aspiring.
Finally managed to earn a BA degree in communications/ American lit. Love romantic fiction that also stretches
the intellectual muscles. And am mad about romantic
Russian composers. I take life seriously but tend to
look at it with a healt...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Dear Steven please see...

The Brent Budowsky article under General News entitle "Forget Wright; the Super Surge Is on."  He is writing off Hillary hoping the superdelegates will swing the nomination to BO.  I have updated the assumptions in info taken from a letter signed by eight former DNC chairs.  If your camp really wants a fair process, the popular vote must be considered and not the strong-arm tactics of intimidating superdelegates to switch to BO.  That is not only unfair, it is undemocratic and BO is representing change, no?

No.

by Marilyn Frith (6 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 191 comments) on Sunday, May 4, 2008 at 8:26:34 AM
 


Midwesterner, veteran of VietNam era naval service, I still feel an obligation to defend the Constitution against "all enemies, foreign and domestic."
John Sanchez Jr.Midwesterner, veteran of VietNam era naval service, I still feel an obligation to defend the Constitution against "all enemies, foreign and domestic."

This week's story.

When Hillary's folks are making up the new rules for each week, could they at least choose and stand behind a philosophy for doing so? This week, I guess everyone gets the franchise, but only direct democracy is acceptable. A couple of weeks ago, everyone in Michigan who voted for Hillary counted, everyone who voted for non-committed delegates was to be disenfranchised. Before that, Hillary had to stay in to enfranchise all of those voters who hadn't yet voted. Representative democracy is acceptable if Hillary gets the majority of pledged delegates, but her campaign has, nevertheless, been cajoling, buying, threatening and herding as many superdelegates as she can garner. She tells them to ignore the vote of their constituency and commit to her for an ever evolving variety of reasons, effectively disenfranchising everyone.

I fully expect that if her dishonesty and double dealing were rewarded by a term in the White House, that her governance would be indistinguishable from her underhanded campaign style.

by John Sanchez Jr. (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 646 comments) on Sunday, May 4, 2008 at 12:45:22 PM
 


GW is a proud American from NY State, concerned about ethics issues, media manipulation and overconsumption. He has recently changed careers to become an inner city schoolteacher. A firm proponent of curbing overpopulation and international adoption, he hopes to adopt a third child and enjoys history, outsider art, garage rock music and rare/unusual vinyl records.
Gustav WynnGW is a proud American from NY State, concerned about ethics issues, media manipulation and overconsumption. He has recently changed careers to become an inner city schoolteacher. A firm proponent of curbing overpopulation and international adoption, he hopes to adopt a third child and enjoys history, outsider art, garage rock music and rare/unusual vinyl records.

Superdealmaking

Under the rules, superdelegates can do whatever the heck they want. They are only beholden to their constituencies to answer for their votes, especially the elected superdelegates. If they burn their constituencies, it may hurt their political futures. On the other hand, if they support Hillary whose deal-making and horse trading career is well established, they may get future favors or concessions from her. For example, she helped Rep. Hall in NY get elected and golly if he didn't endorse her last fall even before the primaries started. Will Obama do the same? I hope not, based on his promises to clean up electoral politics.

by Gustav Wynn (40 articles, 30 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 181 comments) on Monday, May 5, 2008 at 4:17:15 PM
 


Midwesterner, veteran of VietNam era naval service, I still feel an obligation to defend the Constitution against "all enemies, foreign and domestic."
John Sanchez Jr.Midwesterner, veteran of VietNam era naval service, I still feel an obligation to defend the Constitution against "all enemies, foreign and domestic."

I see the superdelegates who wait...

as those who are unwilling to risk Hillary's vindictiveness if they guess wrong and she pulls it out. Perhaps that's oversimplified, but certainly a component of the calculation.

by John Sanchez Jr. (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 646 comments) on Tuesday, May 6, 2008 at 8:37:11 AM
 

 

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