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September 27, 2008 at 02:15:29

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McCain says "Horseshit" on National TV During Debate

by Steven Leser

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McCain loses his temper and says it not once, but twice. See the video, you be the judge.

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JC Garrett is a freelance writer and Constitutional scholar from the piney-woods of East Texas. He apologizes to the entire world that the great Lone Star State could have produced the neo-Neanderthal currently occupying the Oval Office.

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JC GarrettJC Garrett is a freelance writer and Constitutional scholar from the piney-woods of East Texas. He apologizes to the entire world that the great Lone Star State could have produced the neo-Neanderthal currently occupying the Oval Office.

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I don't know

But it sure sounds like it.

by JC Garrett (40 articles, 65 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 604 comments) on Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 2:29:06 AM

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You bet

I heard it once. The sad thing is that Obama was telling the truth...

Also, McCain thought that Spain was in Latin America. Right next to Czeckoslavakia, I'll bet.

by GitarChris (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 124 comments) on Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 2:45:28 AM

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David SpeakmanSilicon Valley-based law student and former journalist.

I don't think so

The guy is ancient and has false teeth that tend to whistle. He was simply saying, "of course" to the fact that Spain is a member of NATO.

The first time he said "of course" - but it came out "uh-korshha"

The second time, it sounded like "korsh"

by David Speakman (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments) on Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 3:02:07 AM

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"Of course" is what they have in the official transcript

I'm just not sure. I still lean to the "Horseshit" interpretation. The lip movements, particularly the first time are much more suggestive of the word "horseshit" than "Of course"

by Steven Leser (228 articles, 49 quicklinks, 34 diaries, 1647 comments) on Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 3:12:07 AM

Obama might do well to use some emphasis

To tell you the truth, I wish Obama would get mad enough to stop pulling his punches with McCain. I'm not talking about smears or lies like McCain continues to be guilty of. There are so many legitimate accusations that Obama could use.

I'd like for Obama to let himself lose his temper slightly in one of these debates. He should get animated and use the word "dammit" just one time. He shouldn't use it directly towards McCain, because he would come across as cussin' McCain out. He should use it in answer to the moderator's question. Something like:

"Senator McCain and I are very fortunate to have excellent healthcare that is paid for by you, the taxpayer. Now if it's okay with him that you pay for our healthcare with tax dollars, why is it not okay to pay for yours? That's just not right, dammit!"

It is possible to be mad and still conduct yourself like a gentleman. And a mad gentleman will use strong language sparingly, but effectively in getting his point across.

by JC Garrett (40 articles, 65 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 604 comments) on Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 6:07:33 AM

I am a Visitation Chaplain for my church in the Health Ministries Dept. I have a M.Div. degree from an acredited Seminary in the Midwest, and I am a member and contributing writer for the GLBT ministry, AGCM.I am a liberal Democrat who has no time for the present Administration and am fully convinced that our White House Administration are the true terrorists in the US, together with their puppy dog conservatives in Congress.
DakI am a Visitation Chaplain for my church in the Health Ministries Dept. I have a M.Div. degree from an acredited Seminary in the Midwest, and I am a member and contributing writer for the GLBT ministry, AGCM.I am a liberal Democrat who has no time for the present Administration and am fully convinced that our White House Administration are the true terrorists in the US, together with their puppy dog conservatives in Congress.

Right on!!!

I agree with you fully!

It may not go over well, being used in the pulpit, but this is the real world we are dealing with, and dammit isn't even strong enough in this case. Having said that, I guess I'd better not say it in the pulpit either, heh heh.

There are times when one must hang up their cloak of religion and let 'er rip!!! Then gently put the cloak back on. There are just some people who don't listen, even if it isn't horses**t!
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by Dak (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 32 comments) on Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 10:10:29 AM

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francineRetired university professor.

Way too deferential

I understand that he does not want to come across as an angry black, but sometimes, he comes across as a sambo, and it's not much better.

Obama tops McCain in several areas, but he does not seem to have enough agon in him, he never fights for his life, he never goes for the jugular. His problem is he is not mean, whereas Republican candidates are plenty mean. Do Americans want a couple of pitbulls in the WH, with and without lipstick, or are they tired of Republican mean?

by francine (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 370 comments) on Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 7:29:01 AM

That works

You nailed that puppy to the wall.

Republican Mean.

Dead center.

by JC Garrett (40 articles, 65 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 604 comments) on Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 7:50:38 AM

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John Sanchez Jr.Midwesterner, veteran of VietNam era naval service, I still feel an obligation to defend the Constitution against "all enemies, foreign and domestic."

Oh sure,...

but was he saying it because he was angry and embarrassed, or was it simply an advertisement for the rest of his remarks through the debate?

by John Sanchez Jr. (6 articles, 0 quicklinks, 13 diaries, 1301 comments) on Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 7:48:47 AM

The EXACT words are...

Sorry, folks.

Horseshit is horseshit, no matter what it sounds like, and if you read his lips as I have been educated to do, "of course" doesn't even enter the picture. What REALLY disturbs me is that I didn't catch it myself; I was too intensely interested in what Obama had to say regarding Spain.

I seriously wonder if we will have any international friends left after this regime is put out to pasture with their fellow "horses."

Dak (George M)

by Dak (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 32 comments) on Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 9:57:27 AM

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Cursing

That's nothing compared to what he calls his wife!

by Archie (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1285 comments) on Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 10:52:49 AM

Hah!

Now that's funny.

by JC Garrett (40 articles, 65 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 604 comments) on Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 11:42:31 AM

Just a housewife paying attention, that's me.
annabananaJust a housewife paying attention, that's me.

yup

Incontovertably "horseshit" "that's horseshit"

by annabanana (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 6 comments) on Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 11:12:54 AM

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Horseshit

The video is no longer available. Too bad. I was gonna check it out because I had not heard "horseshit" while I was watching the debate. But I might have dozed off. Or maybe I was yelling at the screen "stop saying McCain is absolutely right!" Oh well.

by Stickshift (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 14 comments) on Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 12:25:20 PM

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Horseshit

I fully agree the man said horsehit under his breath not once but twice. I also didn't catch it as I was yelling at Obama to stop agreeing with McCain as well. Obama needed to be much more confrontative with McCain, he really needed to pound McCain for his lack of voting for Vet's benefits in his voting record!

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Ojamas SleepwearOjamas Sleepwear is neither supported or endorsed by the Obama/Biden campaign. We are an independent proprietorship which donates a portion of the proceeds from sales to the Democratic ticket. We offer a quality product that is unique, under a registered trademark, for the fun and support of the Democratic process. While a novelty, our product is a quality garment which you will find as comfortable as it is representative of your political hopes.

"Horse Head"

Sounded to me like he had Obama confused with Lionel Richie and called him "Horse Head." Either way, "horse shit" or "horse head", it wasn't very presidential. I'm looking forward to watching the next debate in my Ojamas.

by Ojamas Sleepwear (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 9 comments) on Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 2:58:47 PM

Only in America!

Now, that's the kind of shameless self-promotion you can't even get mad about!

Bravo for OJAMAS!

What'll they think of next?

by JC Garrett (40 articles, 65 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 604 comments) on Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 3:45:03 PM

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Mad McCain

I think that Obama and the Democrats should take advantage of McCain's temper. They should insult him and call him out every chance they get. The more the American people are able to see his emotional instability, the better.

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From the horse's mouth

The moderator should have informed McCain that this was network television and not the floor of the Senate, so that kind of language was unacceptable.

I suppose McCain decided if he couldn't dazzle them with with his brilliance, he could baffle them with his horseshit.

by Dave Kisor (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 158 comments) on Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 10:53:07 AM

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Of Course, is even better

If McCain actually said "Of Course" as the transcript says, then that is even funnier and scarier. Because in essense, if he is saying "Of course" when Obama says that McCain is so rigid that he wouldn't even talk to Spain, that means he is agreeing with something that is preposterous.

by Sumogirl (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 7 comments) on Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 7:14:13 PM

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